Superboy Prime vs Asgard

Started by Golgo1316 pages
Originally posted by zopzop
Nothing really. In terms of combat, just that one Defenders thing in the mid 90s or so. Still wish we had context behind that scan.

Alan Scott (With Starheart) has done more impressive battle showings. Does this mean Sentinel>>>Gaea?

Originally posted by Golgo13
So at least Trans level?

Still did a lot better than SBP did against low-mid herald Conner Kent. 🙄

Originally posted by Golgo13
Alan Scott (With Starheart) has done more impressive battle showings. Does this mean Sentinel>>>Gaea?

Not relevant to this discussion unless you're just trying to lowball (badly at that) the "feat".

Originally posted by Golgo13
Alan Scott (With Starheart) has done more impressive battle showings. Does this mean Sentinel>>>Gaea?

She's an odd one to place power wise. I really wish we knew the context of her "Defenders" fight/feat.

Aside from being a "Grade A" broodmare, she's done little to nothing in terms of fights or even feats and she's been around for a while. Since Marvel appears to have retconned the origin of the Elders Gods during Chaos War (hell Set and Chthon weren't even given a passing mention or the Demiurge), I want to know what she's done recently that makes her so formidable.

I mean look how Demogorge was nerfed into sh|t vs his Classic appearances, I'm allowed to be a little skeptical of her.

Gaea's 'battle' with the Defenders took place in her realm. Does she have any noteworthy feats outside her realm?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Alan Scott (With Starheart) has done more impressive battle showings. Does this mean Sentinel>>>Gaea?

When has Alan effortlessly no sold and dismissed beings on par with the Defenders?

Originally posted by Galan007
Gaea's 'battle' with the Defenders took place in her realm. Does she have any noteworthy feats outside her realm?

Screw where it took place, I want to know the context behind that scan. Why would the "good guys" be attacking Gaea in the first place? 😉

Originally posted by zopzop
She's an odd one to place power wise. I really wish we knew the context of her "Defenders" fight/feat.
Here's the entire scene:
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She/they were in her realm. Just wondering if she's ever done anything remotely close to that outside her realm... Or is she more powerful in her realm then out of it (like most other deities/entities in Marvel)..?

Originally posted by zopzop
She's an odd one to place power wise. I really wish we knew the context of her "Defenders" fight/feat.

Aside from being a "Grade A" broodmare, she's done little to nothing in terms of fights or even feats and she's been around for a while. Since Marvel appears to have retconned the origin of the Elders Gods during Chaos War (hell Set and Chthon weren't even given a passing mention or the Demiurge), I want to know what she's done recently that makes her so formidable.

I mean look how Demogorge was nerfed into sh|t vs his Classic appearances, I'm allowed to be a little skeptical of her.

AFAIK, there was no context in the Defender fight. She was just far above them.

Hey, you can be skeptical all you want. But skepticism does not an argument make. We go by averaged "feats" and "showings" and by that, she stomps on SBP til he cries for his mommy then graciously allows him to breastfeed out of pity. W/c would mean he "wins" in the end, but not in a fight.

Originally posted by Galan007

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She/they were in her realm. Just wondering if she's ever done anything remotely close to that outside her realm... Or is she more powerful in her realm then out of it (like most other deities/entities in Marvel)..?

See that scan? Apparently she got her ass handed to her by some techno mage that the Defenders beat and saved her. Was that ownage of her inside her realm or outside? Does anyone know?

Originally posted by Galan007
Here's the entire scene:
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16022383_1.jpg]
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16022385_2.jpg]
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[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16022392_7.jpg]
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16022393_8.jpg]

She/they were in her realm. Just wondering if she's ever done anything remotely close to that outside her realm... Or is she more powerful in her realm then out of it (like most other deities/entities in Marvel)..?

Ah attempt to lowball then. Where was it explicitly stated that she was somehow amped in this fight? And how is that even relevant when Asgard IS one of her realms as well?

Originally posted by zopzop
See that scan? Apparently she got her ass handed to her by some techno mage that the Defenders beat and saved her. Was that ownage of her inside her realm or outside? Does anyone know?

Yes, captured her essence with his tech (IIRC). Something I'm sure SBP is capable of.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yes, captured her essence with his tech (IIRC). Something I'm sure SBP is capable of.

Inside or outside her realm? Just curious.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Ah attempt to lowball then. Where was it explicitly stated that she was somehow amped in this fight? And how is that even relevant when Asgard IS one of her realms as well?
Lowball? I'm asking a legitimate question.

Most entities in Marvel that have their own realms are more powerful in said realm then they are outside of it-- Shuma, Mephisto & Cyttorak are a few(of many) examples. I am simply asking if this applies to Gaea as well.

Originally posted by zopzop
See that scan? Apparently she got her ass handed to her by some techno mage that the Defenders beat and saved her. Was that ownage of her inside her realm or outside? Does anyone know?
Afaik, it wasn't revealed how Yandroth imprisoned Gaea. However, his death at the hands of the Defenders is what freed her.

Originally posted by zopzop
Inside or outside her realm? Just curious.
She very rarely leaves her realm, so it seems logical to assume she was in said realm when he captured her.

realm? gaia's "realm" is the earth

she destroyed classic dormammu:

http://i.imgur.com/jEuaBEA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GQ4VFbo.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Lowball? I'm asking a legitimate question.

Most entities in Marvel that have their own realms are more powerful in said realm then they are outside of it-- Shuma, Mephisto & Cyttorak are a few(of many) examples. I am simply asking if this applies to Gaea as well.

How is that even relevant to the thread when Asgard IS within her realm?

For that matter, so is Earth for that. With her being the Earth mother and all.

And all those beings you mentioned have on-panel been explicitly stated as being powered up while being in their realm. Apples and oranges. There is as much proof of her being more vulnerable in her realm than she is getting amped by it without extending some form of unstated umberella comic rule that all beings in their realm = being amped.

Originally posted by operator616
realm? gaia's "realm" is the earth
Originally posted by Galan007
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Originally posted by Nibedicus
How is that even relevant to the thread when Asgard IS within her realm?

For that matter, so is Earth for that matter. With her being the Earth mother and all.

And all those beings you mentioned have on-panel been explicitly stated as being powered up while being in their realm. Apples and oranges. There is as much proof of her being more vulnerable in her realm than she is getting amped by it without extending some form of unstated umberella comic rule that all beings in their realm = being amped.

Why are you getting upset? I am asking a simple question, is all.

Do you have an answer or not?

Originally posted by Galan007
Why are you getting upset? I am asking a simple question, is all.

Do you have an answer or not?

Wait, what? How am I upset? This is how I talk. I apologize if I seem upset, but that's not the case.

She has few showings and from what I know, being that Earth (and now so is Asgard IS her realm), she has no "showings" outside her "realms" AFAIK.

I asked a question, too: how is all this relevant to this thread? Do you have an answer or not? Cuz if this is about curiousity, then I suggest we take it to PMs in order to not derail this thread.

Originally posted by Galan007
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The only thing the narration (by Nighthawk) proves is that he doesn't know where the heck they are.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Wait, what? How am I upset? This is how I talk. I apologize if I seem upset, but that's not the case.

She has few showings and from what I know, being that Earth (and now so is Asgard IS her realm, she has no "showings" outside her "realms" AFAIK.

I asked a question, too: how is all this relevant to this thread? Do you have an answer or not? Cuz if this is about curiousity, then I suggest we take it to PMs in order to not derail this thread.

I don't think you're understanding me correctly.

It is a pretty well-known fact that most deities/entities in Marvel who are privy to their own realm, are more powerful in that realm then they are outside of it-- which makes sense. So is Gaea the exception to this? I'm asking because I don't know.

Asking a question in response to my question isn't an answer. 🙂

Originally posted by Nibedicus
The only thing the narration (by Nighthawk) proves is that he doesn't know where the heck they are.
Clearly they aren't on earth-- unless there is a place on Marvel earth that produces man-sized butterflies, and flying whales swimming in floating water..?