Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We saw theSpoiler:. Surfer can definitely knock out Kryptonians with his energy blasts if he's as powerful as I remember.
machine gun fire take out that big Kryptonian that beat up Clark (Didn't Hulk shrug off similar ammunition?) and the missile knocked out Faira IIRC
As mentioned already,
Spoiler:
Faora mask's was removed. As for the big guy, he wasn't taken out just knocked down. We see him fighting with no sign of damage afterwards.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And it isn't possible that isn't the case?Considering Doom tanked a supernova that could have set fire to the atmosphere and destroyed all life on Earth had it not been shielded...
Good feat. But wasn't the Thing hurting him in their brawl? It's been awhile since I've seen it, but if so Supes can put him down.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftLol he didn't turn them off she stop shielding after she seen it was useless and she wanted answers
Yeah Johnny reached 4000 Kelvin and kept getting hotter before they had to stop him.He didn't hold back against Doom though
And Surfer was able to walk through Sue's shields and I believe even turned it off.
Originally posted by the Darkone
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Man of Steel was the sh**, it was what Return of Superman should have been.This was by far better than Iron Man 3, I put Man of Steel #1 and Star Trek #2 as movies of the summer. The fighting scenes were the bomb, I can really see Superman and Darkseid, Brianiac, Mongul fight scenes etc. Im goint to see it again in Imax!!!!
👆 I'd switch the order, though. I think Star Trek was SLIGHTLY better than MOS. Action in MOS was better, though.
superman took the world engine blast for an extended period of time, why are we assuming surfer will knock him out with his blast?
Galactus showed no feats whatsoever, he showed an extreme appetite and superior tech that devours worlds but that's it. not sure how he is of relevance, this is not comic galactus.
It's pretty clear Thor holds back when fighting people his own size, he was impressive against destroyer, the frost giants & the leviathans. he was rather unimpressive against Iron man & Loki, and simply could not match Hulks power in avengers ( fair to say Hulk was about to finish him when the fighter jet intervened) he also struggled to escape from the pod. from the way he was struggling it seemed like he knew he would get seriously hurt if he remained in there.
comes down to Thor not holding back, surfer did not display much in the movie offensively to tell me he has a shot at beating superman ( barring his end of movie hail mary)
Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nGI agree with the world engine comment and Thor holding back.
superman took the world engine blast for an extended period of time, why are we assuming surfer will knock him out with his blast?
Galactus showed no feats whatsoever, he showed an extreme appetite and superior tech that devours worlds but that's it. not sure how he is of relevance, this is not comic galactus.It's pretty clear Thor holds back when fighting people his own size, he was impressive against destroyer, the frost giants & the leviathans. he was rather unimpressive against Iron man & Loki, and simply could not match Hulks power in avengers ( fair to say Hulk was about to finish him when the fighter jet intervened) he also struggled to escape from the pod. from the way he was struggling it seemed like he knew he would get seriously hurt if he remained in there.
comes down to Thor not holding back, surfer did not display much in the movie offensively to tell me he has a shot at beating superman ( barring his end of movie hail mary)
However there is no way Hulk was about to finish Thor before the jet got in the way.
Originally posted by ares834
But wasn't the Thing hurting him in their brawl? It's been awhile since I've seen it, but if so Supes can put him down.
@Bran: As we see from the above video, Sue bled out from her nose simply due to strain of containing Johnny's nova. What Doom survives in the above scene is pretty insane.
I haven't seen MoS yet, but from the discussion going on, it seems the Surfer could very possibly take Kal in a one-on-one fight, let alone when he's being backed by physical powerhouses like Thor and Hulk and a mental powerhouse like Xavier.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
IIRC he took John's full Nova flame until they cooled him off. Definitely on the level of Kryptonians.
Can the Nolan-Krytonians withstand supernova level temperatures?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Iron Man got hit with one back-hand IIRC and it rocked the shit out of him. Not to mention Thor wanted him to stand down for most of the fight But I digress, Iron Man's plenty tough, probably not far off from Kryptonians if we use military weapons as a bench mark.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerTony's armor traded effectiveness for coolness. =\
I disagree. Almost all of the extremis supersoldiers were able to damage or outright destroy most of his armors in the final fight of IM3. I have yet to see, MoS, but based on what people have said about this new Superman, I am inclined to believe that he's plenty tougher than Iron Man.
How easily they destroyed his armors made me angry. Sure it was cool how Tony was switching armors, but this wasn't the same Iron Man I saw enduring massive punishment in Avengers.