Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Jor-El told him to keep pushing himself, and his strength and durability definitely seemed to get better as time went on, as well as his recovery time. It's how he went fromSpoiler:
an oil rig explosion taking him out to going through the side of a mountain and getting up instantly to flying through the World Engine's gravity pulse while weakened to flying fast enough to resist and eventually escape the pull of the Phantom Zone, which was described repeatedly as a black hole/singularity.I do think Superman > any single Kryptonian, but they had training military speaking/combat wise.
I think he got better feats but it's not like the Oil Rig is so contradictory to what we saw in the rest of the movie. They seem to be more durable against blunt force maybe, or just different types of damage, I'm not sure.
It was? Then I really have trouble placing Clark. Similarly Thor shrugging the explosion of the Rainbow Bridge gave me a hard time, especially since coursing through it was enough energy to destroy planets or whatever.
Probably, he is Superman. But it would be by a pubic hair imo.
Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nG
superman took the world engine blast for an extended period of time, why are we assuming surfer will knock him out with his blast?
Galactus showed no feats whatsoever, he showed an extreme appetite and superior tech that devours worlds but that's it. not sure how he is of relevance, this is not comic galactus.
That feat is simply orders of magnitude beyond what I've heard about the capabilities of the Nolan-krytonians in general, and Nolan-Superman in specific.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerI don't see Surfer doing the Galactus buster on Earth.
Because that blast was astronomically greater than the World Engine's explosion? All that the World Engine blast did was destroy a city, while Surfer's kamikaze attack destroyed an object that [b]dwarfed the whole of planet Earth. And the Surfer survived, as was shown in the post-credits scene. Galactus is relevant because he was the larger-than-Earth entity that the Surfer blew up at the end of the movie.That feat is simply orders of magnitude beyond what I've heard about the capabilities of the Nolan-krytonians in general, and Nolan-Superman in specific. [/B]
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It was stated to near the temperatures produced by supernovas. That's billions of kelvins of heat.Can the Nolan-Krytonians withstand supernova level temperatures?
I haven't seen MOS but Johnny's Nova flame was recorded at 4,000 degrees Kelvin and stated to be hot enough to potentially ignite the atmosphere and kill all life on Earth.
Which makes perfect sense actually.
4,000 degrees Kelvin is around 6740.6 degrees Fahrenheit. For comparison, the surface of the sun is 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit, and 5,777 degrees kelvin similar to temperatures found in the core of the Earth. Also, the melting point of diamond is 3,820 degrees kelvin.
They just call it "Johnny going Supernova" not that it is an actual supernova.
Doom's organic metal skin was stated to be harder than diamonds in the movie as well so if this Superman (haven't seen MOS yet) has greater than diamond hard durability, (could he survive going to the core of the Earth?) he should be able to endure it too.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He doesn't need to do so. He could probably KO Kal with enough of his energy blasts. Or disintegrate him the way he did Doom. Either of those are in-character, and plausible ways for him to win this fight.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I'd be worried if it didn't.Being a sequel and follow up to Avengers and all of that.
I'm just basing it off buzz. The 2 most anticipated movies this year were IM 3 and MOS. Both doing great BO now OS. I don't think Thor will out gross either of them. I think IM was the one to benefit most from the Avengers effect and he'll get past 400, but not by much. For MOS 300 is a lock, but we don't know how it's legs will be. Too early to tell.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uh, we saw the oil refinery explosion knock out Superman no? Doubt he can withstand the Nova flame.I need to re-watch the scene but my friend told me
Spoiler:Not sure how that means Surfer will be unable to take him out.
that the World Engine was going to terraform the Earth but at the time it was barely doing any damage to Metropolis much less the entire planet.It should also be noted that Clark definitely felt the bullet from the F-22 (I remember him noticeably grimacing). Pretty much in-line with what we saw with other Kryptonians.
I don't think he was knocked out from the explosion, I would also have to watch it again but I remember him getting up right away. Remember the explosion was just the icing on the cake though, he was flying through buildings also.
What SS did to Galacktus was a chain reaction. He went in and destroyed the heart. It wasn't a blast that emcompassed the entire gaseous cloud that dwarfed the planet. I seriously think that superman is getting lowballed here and ss is being raised on a pedestal. Superman's heat vision can get hotter than the surface > than 4000 degrees kelvin.