Superman Vs. Heralds Of Galactus

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Aww, I missed a lot of shenanigans while I was at work.

Anyway, I agree with Galan and Rage here. Darkseid was close to death and Superman just finished him off. The "completion" of his death was impressive, but Darkseid wasn't anywhere close to being at his best. I believe Superman effectively eradicated his physical form, but seeing as the New Gods are metaphysical concepts and how Darkseid, imho, was going to return through Dr. Hurt, I don't believe Superman actually nullified him from existence.

After the singing, Superman went to activate the MM and wish for a happy ending. IF that happy included having a chance for DS to comeback so be it, but at that point in time, DS died to Superman

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Like Orion, DS was bound to die. They are not embodiment{s}. They are subject to death like Black Racer said. Superman killed him

After the singing, Superman went to activate the MM and wish for a happy ending. IF that happy included having a chance for DS to comeback so be it, but at that point in time, DS died to Superman

Under Morrison, the New Gods were metaphysical concepts, actual ideas given flesh and forms.

Yeah, Darkseid died. Not disputing that. But Superman merely performed the killing stroke, accelerating what was already going to happen to him. He didn't completely erase him from existence, imo, at least given how I interpreted Return of Bruce Wayne and the aftermath of Final Crisis as a whole.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Under Morrison, the New Gods were metaphysical concepts, actual ideas given flesh and forms.

Just look at how the phucking Radion bullet alone was described:

"Essence of bullet."

I really liked Morrison's take on the New Gods, convoluted and inspired by LSD as they might have been.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Under Morrison, the New Gods were metaphysical concepts, actual ideas given flesh and forms.

Yeah, Darkseid died. Not disputing that. But Superman merely performed the killing stroke, accelerating what was already going to happen to him. He didn't completely erase him from existence, imo, at least given how I interpreted Return of Bruce Wayne and the aftermath of Final Crisis as a whole.

The Omega Sanction/Hyper-Adapter didn't "die out" when Darkseid was destroyed. That shit chased Bruce through the timestream for over a year(in RL time) after Darkseid's 'death' in FC-- those concepts are what the entire Return of Bruce Wayne mini was centered around, in fact.

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Even if Darkseid himself was "dead", it's clear that the Omega Sanction was still around, which, logically, should have ceased to exist if Darkseid himself was truly wiped out from existence given that it's his power.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Omega Sanction/Hyper-Adapter didn't "die out" when Darkseid was destroyed. That shit chased Bruce through the timestream for over a year(in RL time) after Darkseid's 'death' in FC-- those concepts are what the entire Return of Bruce Wayne mini was centered around, in fact.

No. Remember, Bruce was essentially BFR'd from the actual singularity and sent hurling randomly through time with the Omega Sanction/Hyper-Adapter hot on his trail. *see Batman #702 & The Return of Bruce Wayne*.

Bruce even noted: "time is the Omega Sanction."

Okay so say Superman didn't kill DS(the idea), but destroyed his body. Mandrakk still destroyed/ate it. DS was still killed but revived through the use of MM which was right after his death

The energies of the Omega Sanction were such that it caused an impenetrable moment in time. ie. once Bruce was struck by the OS, absolutely nothing could alter the events to follow:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16188168/3.jpg.html

Oh and given that Darkseid very nearly killed the entire multiverse moments before Superman wished for a happy ending, I doubt very much that said wish included Darkseid being reborn. Just saying.

Originally posted by Galan007
Oh and given that Darkseid very nearly killed the entire multiverse moments before Superman wished for a happy ending, I doubt very much that said wish included Darkseid being reborn. Just saying.

I don't need proof.

Let's ignore the part where like every New God has died at least like three times and came back most times with no explanation before.

Hell, Orion made Darkseid shoot himself in the head while he had the ALE and the bullethole was there and all, but Darkseid just got up and talked about Orion's disappearance.

It's possible that Darky may have come back through some ridiculous means. However, Superman certainly wouldn't have wished for that.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's possible that Darky may have come back through some ridiculous means. However, Superman certainly wouldn't have wished for that.

It just seemed like one of those random "Oh he came back" moments. Like everytime a New God ever dies, with FC suddenly being the exception.

Bunch of Superman haters. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THE CLEAR CUT, NON DEBATABLE EVIDENCE!!!!

Originally posted by Galan007
Oh and given that Darkseid very nearly killed the entire multiverse moments before Superman wished for a happy ending, I doubt very much that said wish included Darkseid being reborn. Just saying.

When was Darkseid reborn? All I recall is someone attempting to resurrect him, but failing.

The speculation I/we are mocking is that Darkseid was destroyed in FC and then reborn moments later by Superman's miracle machine wish.

While I have no problem with him being alive in some sort of obscure capacity(his Omega energies still existed post-FC, after all), it seems more logical to assume that he was never really erased entirely from existence-- just had his essence shattered or somesuch.

Either way, Superman's idea of a happy ending does not include Darkseid being reborn, so that theory seems kind of silly.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bunch of Superman haters. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THE CLEAR CUT, NONE DEBATABLE EVIDENCE!!!!

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Rage: essence of fail.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why can't people learn the difference between non and none?

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I just edited it too.

Originally posted by Galan007
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Rage: essence of fail.

Shut up, noob.