Dooku, Maul and Kenobi vs. Sids

I understand not ranking Obi-Wan that much more highly than the likes Agen/Saesee/Kit; I'm not completely sure how I see it yet but I'm thinking I probably would rank him quite a bit above them but not drastically so, but it seems that on one end you have his far greater exposure leading people to believe he's leagues superior, but then on the other end you have people more deeply analysing the source material and concluding that he hasn't truthfully proven himself to be vastly superior.

But even if you think of him in the same light as the Kit/Agen/Saesee trio, being the absolute master of the style designed for defence, I cannot imagine that Sidious would be able to handle him quite as easily.

Likely by virtue of vastly superior physicality and a more complete mastery of all 7 forms.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
and a more complete mastery of all 7 forms.

what?

That should read: Sidious has more complete mastery, having mastered all 7 forms.

Even still... what? Since when?

The Clone Wars Episode Guide.

Does it state when he mastered them?

Nope, presumably some time prior before "The Lawless" which is the episode in which the factoid is given.

Apparently the episode guides have been removed from the website... S-Canon? 😄

Wasn't talking about the website's episode guides. 😂

Damn it...

😉

My torrents seem to have failed me, you wouldn't happen to have a scan of that page lying around somewhere would you?

I would.

Your desperation is gratifying.

Kenobi is only slightly better then Fisto/Tiin/Kolar so he gets pwned easy. Maul gets pwned to. Then Dooku gets hacked up. Sidious wins taking all 3 scenarios.

Well this news is very damaging to future arguments I was planning on having... I had a good dozen or so Bane threads in the pipeline that now may never see the light of day.

Spoiler:
Post it please?

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Kenobi is only slightly better then Fisto/Tiin/Kolar so he gets pwned easy. Maul gets pwned to. Then Dooku gets hacked up. Sidious wins.

Well said, my son.

Neb
Well this news is very damaging to future arguments I was planning on having... I had a good dozen or so Bane threads in the pipeline that now may never see the light of day.

Spoiler:
Post it please?

Soon, my other son. Soon. I'd like to enjoy your anguish a little more.

To be honest sometimes it feels like these reference guides have been made specifically to make my job harder. Its like these guys are out to get me, they resent my friendship with Drew and so they're taking it out on all of my favorite characters... It's just not fair! Tell me the name of the jackass that wrote this latest guide so that I can send Intrepid after him.

Originally posted by noitseuq
But even if you think of him in the same light as the Kit/Agen/Saesee trio, being the absolute master of the style designed for defence, I cannot imagine that Sidious would be able to handle him quite as easily.

Originally posted by noitseuq
Tell me the name of the jackass that wrote this latest guide so that I can send Intrepid after him.

...especially if it's Karpyshan, or the ******* who wrote the TFU books.

Sure but Soresu was designed in such a way that he doesn't need to be as fast as his opponents to be able to successfully defend himself against them, but rather more efficient with his movements. If it were a matter where Sidious was simply so much faster than him that Obi-Wan didn't have the reflexes to respond to any of his movements, then it might be a little different but I don't think you can say that that great a disparity in speed exists; Kit as an example did get destroyed in seconds but he was at least able to not get completely blitzed and managed to last a couple of exchanges. Obi-Wan may not be the vastly superior swordsman to Kit but I don't think it's a stretch to say that he's the vastly superior defensive swordsman.

And you leave Drew alone!