Dooku, Maul and Kenobi vs. Sids

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mnat801 Senior Member

Originally posted by Intrepid37
AotC Maul?

Regardless, the outcome is the same as in the other thread involving similar participants: Sidious kills Maul and Kenobi before either can react, then proceeds to kill Dooku after a dull fight.

Its not Sidious vs Maul & Kenobi and then afterwards Sidious vs Dooku. Even with Sidious being the clear superior of either 3, pitting each against him creates a 3 on 1 situation, in which I believe the team can take the 'all out' department, due to the numbers game. Remember Maul & Kenobi are no pushovers and Dooku is arguably 80% Sidious. And by the way I am assuming this is ROTS Sidious. I'll also note that Dooku felt confident that he and Kenobi could overthrow Sidious (AOTC).

mnat801 Senior Member

Originally posted by ares834
Sidous already demonstrated he can casually own Maul and Savage with the force. Kenobi and Maul should be just as easy to defeat.
There is a vast difference between Maul & Savage compared to Maul, Kenobi & Dooku.

mnat801 Senior Member

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah, Sidious definitely blitzes them. Obi-Wan can't even compete with Sidious per Lucas and Maul was crushed the second Sidious got visibly pissed.

Assuming he "unleashes his full fury," the lesser peeps go down and The Count proceeds to have the worst day of his life.

I know I'm an Obi Wan fanboy, I admit it, but I'm assuming you're a Sids fanboy? Because as of ROTS, one does not simply blitz Kenobi and his mastery of Soresu. At least with the help of Maul & Dooku.

Intrepid37 Restricted

Mace Windu, Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin confronted Palpatine: all four are among the best swordsmen in the order, some among the best ever produced: three of them were blitzed, the last one forced back.

I have no idea why you think he'd be able to slaughter three celebrated swordsmen but not Kenobi and Maul (both of whom at best are as fast as Fisto).

mnat801 Senior Member

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Mace Windu, Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin confronted Palpatine: all four are among the best swordsmen in the order, some among the best ever produced: three of them were blitzed, the last one forced back.

I have no idea why you think he'd be able to slaughter three celebrated swordsmen but not Kenobi and Maul (both of whom at best are as fast as Fisto).

Because Fisto & Co lack the defensive capabilities that Kenobi excels at, which makes Kenobi last considerably longer than them, as well as Kenobi having previous experience with Sith Lords. And Maul - 1. He is approx. on par with Kenobi and 2. knows Sids. Basically Fisto & Co have the skill, but lack the X factor, which Maul & Kenobi have.

Intrepid37 Restricted

How would his defensive capablitites matter when he can't even see what he's defending from?

noitseuq Restricted

Prove it please.

Intrepid37 Restricted

Prove what?

noitseuq Restricted
he can't even see what he's defending from
Intrepid37 Restricted

Fisto whirls his blade fast enough that its surrounding blurs seemingly create a ''cyclone'' of light. Neither Kenobi nor Maul has ever fought that fast.

To the rear of the car, where Grievous's pair of MagnaGuards had made the mistake of pitting themselves against Kit Fisto, the Nautolan's blade was a cyclone of blazing blue light. Resistant to the energy outpourings of a lightsaber, the phrik alloy staffs were potent weapons, but like any weapon they needed to find their target, and Kit simply wasn't allowing that.

-Labyrinth of Evil

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Surely not hyperbole or just a fanciful description.

Intrepid37 Restricted

It's better than any hyperbolic description Kenobi and Maul have.

Also,

Fisto moves so fast he seems to be in three places at once:

From the corner of his eye he saw that Kit had made his way almost to Ventress, and what he saw as the Nautolan increased his efforts almost broke Obi-Wan's concentration. His companion was a living, martial hurricane, his body moving in two and three directions at once, joints flexing, unlimited by human vertebral restraints.

-The Cestus Deception

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Thats just his body moving in 3 directions at once because of his alien flexibility. Its nothing to do with speed.

Intrepid37 Restricted

Alien flexibility lol. Yes it does. Still waiting for showings from Maul and Kenobi that matches Fisto's lightsaber glowing extremely much due to the blurs created.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

No it doesn't. He's just being a weird alien and spazzing out all over the place because his spine is crazy flexible.

Intrepid37 Restricted

Flexibility alone does not make it possible to be in three places at once.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

It makes it possible to move in three directions at once, which is what the text actually says.

Why do you think its mentioning his flexibility in the first place?

Intrepid37 Restricted

It doesn't say that.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Still waiting for showings from Maul and Kenobi that matches Fisto's lightsaber glowing extremely much due to the blurs created.
DARTH POWER Senior Member

Originally posted by Intrepid37
It's better than any hyperbolic description Kenobi and Maul have.

Also,

Fisto moves so fast he seems to be in three places at once:

From the corner of his eye he saw that Kit had made his way almost to Ventress, and what he saw as the Nautolan increased his efforts almost broke Obi-Wan's concentration. His companion was a living, martial hurricane, his body moving in two and three directions at once, joints flexing, unlimited by human vertebral restraints.

-The Cestus Deception

And yet he still gets tooled by early CW Ventress.

Intrepid37 Restricted

While disadvantaged. Have you not read their fight?