Originally posted by leonidas
difference is in your case, the boulder and truck comprise a SINGLE force--that is they are 'attached'.there is no proof the earths are 'attached' to the universes in the same dynamic. what you're saying is this: somehow, just because an incursion is happening, the earths become 'attached' to the ENTIRE UNIVERSE. if someone moved the earth in a comic, would you say they moved the equivalent of the entire universe??? of course not, that's asinine. so, now, just because the universes are moving into the same place, the rules change and moving the earth DOES equal moving the entire universe?? when does this change take place exactly? no, that makes no sense....at all, really. even by comic standards.
What made the earths crumble?
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Why are we even worried about that feat when Hype has another planet feat? Its the DC side trying to not bring it up. Hype has better strength feats. Plain and simple.And despite the shenanigans, the authors made it clear. "He held them apart" despite the universes pushing against them. Did he overpower universes? No. But he momentarily did and imo thats better than moving a moon. If Superman replaced Hype yall would be screaming he has multivers strength feats.
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Originally posted by carver9
What made the earths crumble?
the movements of the universes. you're cheering right now, yes? 😂
but that in no way at all means he held universes apart. you're assuming the universes are like pins and the earths are the pointy tips of the pins. holding the tips apart=holding apart both universes. but why in god's name would anyone assume the earths are at the "head" of the entire universe?? lol
all we know for certain is that if the EARTHS touch, each universe is destroyed. show me a scan that says he held TWO UNIVERSES apart. i'm not abhi. 👆
your point is TERRIBLY hindered by a second fact--reed points out that if one of the earths is destroyed, BOTH UNIVERSES ARE SAFE. iow, both universes just keep on passing by. again, all that is necessary is to keep the PLANETS apart and the universes go about their normal business.
there is obviously some external force on the planets but the planets themselves can only stand the forces that the planets themselves can withstand. once they exceed that limit, they break. that means he could ONLY have held apart the planets with a force equal to whatever the planets themselves could withstand. how much force can a planet withstand before it shatters? i dunno. if 2 planets in OUR universe collided, both would be shattered, and that sure as hell is a lot less force than the inertial force of a universe.....
like i said, it's a cool feat. but he is not holding 2 universes apart.
Originally posted by leonidas
the movements of the universes. you're cheering right now, yes? 😂but that in no way at all means he held universes apart. you're assuming the universes are like pins and the earths are the pointy tips of the pins. holding the tips apart=holding apart both universes. but why in god's name would anyone assume the earths are at the "head" of the entire universe?? lol
all we know for certain is that if the EARTHS touch, each universe is destroyed. show me a scan that says he held TWO UNIVERSES apart. i'm not abhi. 👆
your point is TERRIBLY hindered by a second fact--reed points out that if one of the earths is destroyed, BOTH UNIVERSES ARE SAFE. iow, both universes just keep on passing by. again, all that is necessary is to keep the PLANETS apart and the universes go about their normal business.
there is obviously some external force on the planets but the planets themselves can only stand the forces that the planets themselves can withstand. once they exceed that limit, they break. [b]that means he could ONLY have held apart the planets with a force equal to whatever the planets themselves could withstand.
how much force can a planet withstand before it shatters? i dunno. if 2 planets in OUR universe collided, both would be shattered, and that sure as hell is a lot less force than the inertial force of a universe.....like i said, it's a cool feat. but he is not holding 2 universes apart. [/B]
You're not making sense though. Here Cap use the Gauntlet and hit Earth with it...
If your theory was true, even with Captain pushing Earth back with the Gauntlet, the Universe would've kept moving forward but thats not what happened is it Leo. Cap used the Gauntlet and the power did push Earth back but guess what else it pushed back Leo, the Universe right along with it. To the point that the Gauntlet broke.
Now if your theory was true (and it's not), Earth would've been pushed back but the Universe would've still kept being pushed forward but Cap hitting Earth with the Gauntlet caused the Earth AND the universe to be pushed back. Also Stilt, Hulk stomps all.
Originally posted by JBL
. How is it that every time a feat is greater than supermans, his fans try and lowball the feat? Hyperion holds back two universes, they cry no he didn't. Gladiator destroys a planet, they call it a rock. Gladiator contains an explosion, they cry no he didn't, he didn't fly at 100 times light speed. But superman gets on a machine and he's given credit for benching the earth itself???
So everybody who goes against this is a Superman fanboy?
And Stilt: 😆 You go get carter!! And he should be banned for breaking the page. sneer
Originally posted by iceman24567
JBL always makes it about Superman its sad 😬
Abhi certainly is arguing against the feat. But Leo and DS are too, and I wouldn't put them in "The House Of El." I guess JBL has them on ignore?
I myself haven't read the storyline, so I'm not arguing it, just had to point-out how head scratching it is that JBL acts as if only Superman fans are arguing against it.
Originally posted by carver9
You're not making sense though. Here Cap use the Gauntlet and hit Earth with it...If your theory was true, even with Captain pushing Earth back with the Gauntlet, the Universe would've kept moving forward but thats not what happened is it Leo. Cap used the Gauntlet and the power did push Earth back but guess what else it pushed back Leo, the Universe right along with it. To the point that the Gauntlet broke.
Now if your theory was true (and it's not), Earth would've been pushed back but the Universe would've still kept being pushed forward but Cap hitting Earth with the Gauntlet caused the Earth AND the universe to be pushed back. Also Stilt, Hulk stomps all.
Not just hold the Earth's apart.
Originally posted by Delta1938Don't know about DS but Leo is a undercover superman fan. Lol. He shows up when someone says something against superman, so does iceman.
Abhi certainly is arguing against the feat. But Leo and DS are too, and I wouldn't put them in "The House Of El." I guess JBL has them on ignore?I myself haven't read the storyline, so I'm not arguing it, just had to point-out how head scratching it is that JBL acts as if only Superman fans are arguing against it.