ROTS Mace and Yoda vs. Zone Anakin & Sidious

Originally posted by Zett

Hard to tell, since [b]one sequence was cut off:

COUNT DOOKU: I've been looking forward to this.
ANAKIN: My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count.
COUNT DOOKU: Good. Twice the pride, double the fall.
DOOKU lunges at the JEDI and they fall back . . .
COUNT DOOKU: (continuing) Your moves are clumsy, Kenobi . . . too predictable. You'll have to do better.
As the battle proceeds, OBI-WAN and COUNT DOOKU are tired. ANAKIN is stronger as he becomes angry. ANAKIN continues to drive the attack on DOOKU. COUNT DOOKU throws OBI-WAN back using the Force.

After this sequence, Dooku and Kenobi are tired, and Anakin's getting stronger. But it was acctualy not happen. Dooku and Kenobi probably aren't tired. Is Anaking getting stronger? I have no idea, but still he's not on Count's level (after all, Dooku overpowered them both in saber lock, and take an advantage). [/B]

Originally posted by Zett
WTF are you talking about? Of course, movie is above novel, but this kick that Power is talking about is from movie. Another source of this fight, Rise and Fall of DV is 100% consistent with movie version. And in this book Dooku outclassed both, Anakin and Obi-Wan, until Anakin starts to use his anger.

I know that, it was just an example. I apologize if I didn't make that clear.

How many times does this simple fact need to be made clear.. what Anakin did on Mortis was a ONE OFF and not something he's normally capable of doing. It's really that simple. It took many factors not present in a normal fight for him to even do that. Let's stop acting like Anakin can do that all the time or that is part of his normal powerset.. it's not.

If so, than why after he's even more powerful in ROTS did he not just make Dooku bow before him with the force? Why didn't he just do the same to kenobi? Because as I stated that particular Mortis event was a one off that took many variables for that to even happen. Zone anakin is the one we saw against Dooku... Mortis Anakin is just that.. Mortis Anakin.. it's not the same beast at all.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please show me ANYTIME.. JUST ONCE... That Anakin used this alleged TK AWESOMENESS you speak of to beat anybody on the level of Mace or Yoda... if you can't.. then you need to be quiet about this bullshit you speak. Anakin has never TK'd anybody on the level of these two.. EVER.

So tell me... Why wasn't he able to do so to Dooku and Kenobi when he's confirmed via narration and the movie to be significantly more powerful than when he performed that feat? Odd isn't it? Could it be because that was under special circumstances and simply a one off.. something that he coulnd't do again unless those same variables are in place?

^ I was simply pointing out how you ask for one specific thing, hinting you will concede if your shown just that one thing, and then when your shown it you just completely change the direction of your argument, not conceding to anything, and asking for new demands.

Anyway:

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So tell me... Why wasn't he able to do so to Dooku and Kenobi when he's confirmed via narration and the movie to be significantly more powerful than when he performed that feat? Odd isn't it? Could it be because that was under special circumstances and simply a one off.. something that he coulnd't do again unless those same variables are in place?

Yes his Zone mode is rare and not the norm. That's why he's called Zone Anakin.

Mortis Zone Anakin was the highest feat of power he's ever displayed. Him Solidly Overpowering Dooku probably comes second.

Now tell me why is it that Kenobi got completely thrashed by Dooku in ROTS when he once handled both Maul brothers together, even though he's supposed to be at his peak by ROTS?
"Odd isn't it? Could it be because that was under special circumstances and simply a one off.. something that he coulnd't do again unless those same variables are in place?"

^

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nobody says dumber stuff than you DP, and everybody on here knows it.

Originally posted by Petrus
You seem to lack the knowledge to properly argue about a thread yourself created.

Originally posted by Petrus
What the hell?

Dude, that's why there's a difference between Zonakin and Anakin... You're thinking they're the same, and you made this thread...

Originally posted by NTJack0
I don't even think this is worth a response.

On top of that, was the Anakin Obi-Wan was fighting Zonakin? No? Didn't think so.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
KuRuPT Thanosi your a complete idiot.

You wont be able to give him an arguments, because in his little world, that he created for himself, there is no place for people who disagree with him.
Despite all of this quotes, we both know DP, that many others people, like Mizukage Yoda or Intrepid37 for example, agreed with you much more often then with him.
So, I guess your efforts are pointless.

Originally posted by Zett

You wont be able to give him an arguments, because in his little world, that he created for himself, there is no place for people who disagree with him.
Despite all of this quotes, we both know DP, that many others people, like Mizukage Yoda or Intrepid37 for example, agreed with you much more often then with him.
So, I guess your efforts are pointless.

👆

I think I originally skimmed over the part where he says no one says dumber stuff than me and everyone knows it. Kind of funny coming from him!

It's nothing you haven't heard before DP.. Should I quote all the people that have laughed at you and made fun of your views? Say the word lol

Bro, everyone laugh at your posts, and the ones that don't laugh, it's because not everyone can read what's unreadable.

You're still mad that I tooled your theory about Sidious throwing the entire fight huh? I know you got battered in that thread and others but it will be okay intrepid.

I think that's one of the few of your posts that I didn't get a headache from reading.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's nothing you haven't heard before DP.. Should I quote all the people that have laughed at you and made fun of your views? Say the word lol

Yes I've had some heated debates here, but it's all part of debating. Sometimes it's easier to just "make fun" of your opponent's views instead of successfully addressing them. But with the exception of Sidious66 I really can't think of many people here who generally laugh at my views, or don't take me seriously. You on the other hand..

Fact is your butthurt because I've owned you on this thread. You asked for JUST ONE TIME, that Anakin showed Awesome TK overpowering anyone on or above Mace and Yoda's level. "JUST ONE TIME." And you had the nerve to insult me in the process. Well I showed you ONE TIME, and you really should have conceded there and then that you don't know that much about the SW EU, and should probably listen more to people here. Instead you just completely changed your argument still ramming it down people's throats.

Actually Sidious isn't the only one DP and you know it. The only people who have insulted me in this thread are the people who disagree with me. Expected.

When I asked for that I wasn't including said incident because that isn't typical Anakin.. shit that isn't even zone anakin or fighting the best he can Anakin. That was a one off situation where he was aided in accomplishing said feat. I don't consider that either typical or fighting great Anakin. You very well know the variables in place to pull that feat off.. Those variables aren't in this thread. So then, if Anakin can't overpower Kenobi with TK.. nor did he overpower Dooku in the zone with TK.. How then, is he going to overpower Yoda or Mace with TK?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Actually Sidious isn't the only one DP and you know it.

Go on then, name me 2 others. And then name me 3 people who take you seriously here. I think Mnat801 used to side with you a lot, basically because he loved Obi-Wan, so he loved your idea that Sith Anakin > Zone Anakin. Apart from him I was probably the only one ironically.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
When I asked for that I wasn't including said incident because that isn't typical Anakin.. shit that isn't even zone anakin or fighting the best he can Anakin. That was a one off situation where he was aided in accomplishing said feat. I don't consider that either typical or fighting great Anakin. You very well know the variables in place to pull that feat off.. Those variables aren't in this thread. So then, if Anakin can't overpower Kenobi with TK.. nor did he overpower Dooku in the zone with TK.. How then, is he going to overpower Yoda or Mace with TK?

This has all been answered on this very thread. Yet you keep harping on about the same shit over and over again.

Just go back through this thread, and you'll see your responses. You can ignore them all you want, but no dancing around is going to change the fact that I owned you on your own thread when I posted the feat you demanded.

Posting a one off feat with variables NOT in this thread isn't owning me. That is a total joke. Let me ask you this.. where anakin pulled off that feat.. did that aid in the feat in anyways?

Couldn't Sidious simply crush Windu's entire body or his skull, or his throat instantly with his unrivaled TK? (similar to what he did to the maul brothers).

Apparently not.

Couldn't Mace just take a dump on Sids mouth and KO him with the smell?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Couldn't Mace just take a dump on Sids mouth and KO him with the smell?

What a vivid portrait of your depraved sexcapades.

...It would not displease me to read further.