Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please show me ANYTIME.. JUST ONCE... That Anakin used this alleged TK AWESOMENESS you speak of to beat anybody on the level of Mace or Yoda... if you can't.. then you need to be quiet about this bullshit you speak. Anakin has never TK'd anybody on the level of these two.. EVER.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Actually they were more powerful than Mace and Yoda:
Yep that was ownage.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
[B]Posting a one off feat with variables NOT in this thread isn't owning me. That is a total joke.
And yet you continuously harp on about Obi-Wan's one off feat (with variables) fighting off both Maul brothers. Claiming it's something he can accomplish on "Any given day."
Double standards much?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
[B] Let me ask you this.. where anakin pulled off that feat.. did that aid in the feat in anyways?
Oh so it was all about the location. Is that the new direction of your argument after being owned in every other direction you've turned?
Ok, that's cool. It was a Force Nexus, so any Jedi or Sith would be considerably more powerful there. But guess who else was there? Oh that's right, your beloved Obi-Wan who you claim is equally/more powerful in the Force to Zone Anakin.
And did he display such power there? No. He was in fact one of the people Skywalker was saving there.
Now I'm open to the idea that Skywalker being the chosen one gets a bigger boost on a Force nexus than other Jedi/Sith (although that's just speculation with no proof behind it), but then wouldn't that mean Zone Anakin gets an even larger boost than all other Jedi Sith on any Force Nexus?
Do you know the Jedi Temple is itself on a Force Nexus? Which would mean Zone Anakin's chances of taking out Yoda or Mace on their own home turf would be pretty damn good.
Do you enjoy posting the same quote over and over again as if it reinforces your point more? Why would you post a feat where it was totally dependant on a specific location not in this fight? How the F do you think that was ownage?
What's worse is now you think I'm changing my direction? I've stated from the jump that isn't a applicable feat to what I asked for. I said from the jump that feat had cirucumstances that don't exist in this thread or in general. So how on earth am I now changng my direction? LOL
I'm honestly curious if you're this dumb or just playing dumb? It's like me asking you when did a Prime jack Johnson ever lose to a White Fighter in a 20 round or less fight... and then you citing me Jess Willard. Granted, I know you know nothing about boxing. However, Jess Willard was white and was a HW and Johnson did lose to him. Yet, that example woudn't apply because Jack wasn't in his prime he was 37.. he lost after the 20th round and the fight was in the hot cuban sun in which people not fighting suffered heat stroke. Understand now? When I asked you for a time Anakin owned someone in TK like Mace or Yoda.. Why the **** would you think an example of Anakin doing so in a nexus with aid applies to my question? YOu honestly can't be this dumb. You even admit it was a one off and it took special cirucmstances and nt typical for a normal anakin or even a zone anakin yet you still cited it and thought you owend me LOL
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Do you enjoy posting the same quote over and over again as if it reinforces your point more? Why would you post a feat where it was totally dependant on a specific location not in this fight? How the F do you think that was ownage?
Because it proved you didn't have a clue what you were on about before attacking me. That is pure ownage. Keep crying about it.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What's worse is now you think I'm changing my direction? I've stated from the jump that isn't a applicable feat to what I asked for. I said from the jump that feat had cirucumstances that don't exist in this thread or in general. So how on earth am I now changng my direction? LOL
You asked for the feat. I gave it you. You jumped in several different directions since then refusing to accept it.
Heck your first direction was to demand feats from the Ones LOL, further proving you don't even know what the heck your going on about here.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Understand now? When I asked you for a time Anakin owned someone in TK like Mace or Yoda.. Why the **** would you think an example of Anakin doing so in a nexus with aid applies to my question? YOu honestly can't be this dumb. You even admit it was a one off and it took special cirucmstances and nt typical for a normal anakin or even a zone anakin yet you still cited it and thought you owend me LOL
Wow. You've not answered any of my questions, and have carried on with your rant which I and others have already answered. Amazing!
So you going to just go on about this Force Nexus thing, which also made the Ones more Powerful? Which Kenobi also had access to and yet he was helpless against the Ones. Is this the latest shift in your argument?
Well the Jedi temple is on a Force Nexus, so you going to admit now that Zone Anakin can overpower Mace or Yoda (or possibly both) on their home turf?
You don't even understand what Zone Anakin is. It's Anakin bringing out all his accessible power in one go. Something he does with the right focus and yes rage too. What Zone Anakin is not is just pure mindless rage. I.e. Sith Anakin is not Zone Anakin. Sith Anakin was in fact only equal to Kenobi in Force TK, so we know as a fact that Count Dooku would pimp Force TK smack Sith Anakin all over the place. But of course Count Dooku could do no such thing to Zone Anakin.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Couldn't Sidious simply crush Windu's entire body or his skull, or his throat instantly with his unrivaled TK? (similar to what he did to the maul brothers).
Well either:
1) Mace is simply more powerful in the Force than Maul/Opress OR
2) Mace's raw power is similar to the Brothers, but he has greater mastery of the Force which allows him to apply that power more efficiently to aid his Force defenses OR
3) Mace was putting too much pressure on Sidious in the Lightsaber duel making it difficult for Sidious to take a time out to Force Own Windu.
Take your pick, but I'm guessing most people will lean towards the first. Although the first seems a bit odd to me considering the Brothers own beastly force feats.
That was in the novel. The script (Lucas canon version) has Sidious slamming Mace into a wall then attempting to cut him down, but Mace dodges him IIRC.
Whilst when Maul got force pushed he got KO'd.
Of course that could just mean Sidious was not able to put his full power into the force push against Mace.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Because it proved you didn't have a clue what you were on about before attacking me. That is pure ownage. Keep crying about it.You asked for the feat. I gave it you. You jumped in several different directions since then refusing to accept it.
Heck your first direction was to demand feats from the Ones LOL, further proving you don't even know what the heck your going on about here.
Wow. You've not answered any of my questions, and have carried on with your rant which I and others have already answered. Amazing!
So you going to just go on about this Force Nexus thing, which also made the Ones more Powerful? Which Kenobi also had access to and yet he was helpless against the Ones. Is this the latest shift in your argument?
Well the Jedi temple is on a Force Nexus, so you going to admit now that Zone Anakin can overpower Mace or Yoda (or possibly both) on their home turf?
You don't even understand what Zone Anakin is. It's Anakin bringing out all his accessible power in one go. Something he does with the right focus and yes rage too. What Zone Anakin is not is just pure mindless rage. I.e. Sith Anakin is not Zone Anakin. Sith Anakin was in fact only equal to Kenobi in Force TK, so we know as a fact that Count Dooku would pimp Force TK smack Sith Anakin all over the place. But of course Count Dooku could do no such thing to Zone Anakin.
You citing an example that isn't relevant to the discussion at hand. What is so unclear about that? I used the boxing analogy to illustrate example what you did and how it doesn't apply to this thread or any normal/zone anakin thread. Most people agree that there is a different even between Zone Anakin and MortisAnakin... Thus, your example is invalid.
Why do you keep going on and on about the Jedi temple thing? As if Anakin would be the only one getting a boost from the Jedi temple? Mace and Yoda also would be getting a boost themselves and are much more experienced and powerful at that point in Anakin's life. Sure, eventually Anakin could've surpassed them at some point.. but not when we saw him. So tell me... Does the Jedi temple offer the same mount of boost as Mortis?
Now.. I want a applicable example of when Anakin owned somebody on the level of Yoda or Mace or Sidious in TK? This time.. try and give me one that is actually relevant to this thread.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That was in the novel. The script (Lucas canon version) has Sidious slamming Mace into a wall then attempting to cut him down, but Mace dodges him IIRC.
Whilst when Maul got force pushed he got KO'd.
Of course that could just mean Sidious was not able to put his full power into the force push against Mace.
My interpretation is that while Sidious is more powerful and can toss him around a bit, it isn't to the extent that he can pwn him or capitalise on it effectively. At least not in lightsaber combat.
He isn't above him to the extent that he can dominate him like he did against Maul and Opress.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You citing an example that isn't relevant to the discussion at hand. What is so unclear about that? I used the boxing analogy to illustrate example what you did and how it doesn't apply to this thread or any normal/zone anakin thread. Most people agree that there is a different even between Zone Anakin and MortisAnakin... Thus, your example is invalid.
We've said it time and time again:
You were the one who put Zone Anakin on the title of the thread. Of course we know what Anakin did against the Ones and against Dooku isn't consistent to Anakin's abilities overall, but that's exactly the reason why he's called Zone Anakin... By putting 'Zone Anakin' on the title of this thread, you are making people assume you are referring to the Anakin who can pull stuff like that off, not the one who can't.
And it can be argued that Zonakin and Mortakin are the same.
actually it can't be.. ZONEANAKIN was him just letting go of some mental blocks.. pulling out all the stops... using some of his anger and rage and fear to increase is power. THAT IS WORLDS APART.. from being at a SPECIFIC LOCATION WHICH GAVE HIM A ULTRA POWERFUL BOOST in power. How the **** can you think those things are the same? You honestly can't be this dumb. One took an external amp and other variables in place in order for him to pull it off. ANother ddn't take an external amp but was just anakin simply using some of the emotions he tried to normal block free and not hold back. It's really amaxing that you even claim they are the same. zoneanakin and mortis anakin aren't the same person. I asked for example of zonanakin using TK to crush somebody on the level of Yoda or Mace... how woudl citing Mortis anakin be what I was asking about in this thread/
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
actually it can't be.. ZONEANAKIN was him just letting go of some mental blocks.. pulling out all the stops... using some of his anger and rage and fear to increase is power. THAT IS WORLDS APART.. from being at a SPECIFIC LOCATION WHICH GAVE HIM A ULTRA POWERFUL BOOST in power.
I'll quote Tempest, because I'm too lazy to explain it to you:
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'm not sure we should distinguish Zownakin from Mortakin. Based on Stover's fluffy descriptions, they seem comparable.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
All the fluff about Dooku being dead already the second Anakin utilizes his power, the Count's skills, experience, and power being a total joke to Anakin at this point, etc. and so forth.That kind of dominance over one of the strongest Sith Lords ever is pretty rare.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
But the Son and the Daughter had the same power to draw on and couldn't stop him. There's no reason to believe Mortis is necessary for Anakin to wield that power, else his peerless potential and the Father's confirmed station by Leland Chee wouldn't really apply if Mortis is really the crux to it all.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yes, but the Anchorites are drawing on the same power. For Anakin to still overcome them both when all three draw on the same energy source means his advantage must be internal. Which is why The Father has selected him and him alone as a replacement rather than any Force using schmuck who can harness a Force nexus.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How the **** can you think those things are the same? You honestly can't be this dumb.
lol. Says the guy who said this to me:
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I believe you need to read the forum rules before you further make an ass out of yourself.
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