Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Hate to ruin your moment...but nothing you said makes HOT a match for Yoda or Palpatine...if ever Luke.
By the time HoT left Tython, he was already above Count Dooku by virtue of being more powerful then Bengel Morr and Orgus Din at this point. And this is an early phase in his story arc. Now before you foolishly attempt to lowball Orgus Din and Bengel Morr, visit page 2 of this thread to understand how powerful these individuals were. In-fact, Bengel Morr and Darth Angral are counted among the most formidable foes of HoT but he eclipsed them.
I don't subscribe to this kind of mentality: Jedi (A) pulled down a 3 story building at one point and Jedi (B) pulled down a 4 story building at one point, so Jedi (A) is likely to be superior.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Hero pulling down that 4-story building was one of his few TK feat, and his best. Meanwhile, Luke's already pulling down a 3-story building 30 years before his prime. Like heck, the strength Luke grew in LOTF alone is basically unavailable, mastering around 7 new Force techniques including Force Fold.
Holistically, HoT have remarkable accomplishments under his belt just like Luke have (both dealt with seemingly "impossible odds" and made it through). In-fact, HoT's performance on Dromund Kaas is more then enough to put him on level of Luke holistically even though it is possible that Luke may have failed in HoT's shoes (Luke's powers diminished near the position of Dark Temple on Dromund Kaas, right?)
Luke's powers were diminished from Abeloth's own nexus, who's power is even much greater then Vitiates. In fact, I think Luke even said that the nexus Abeloth created was much greater then Palpatine's from Byss. Here's a little quote from Luke's time at the Nexus of Doom:
"Everyone responded at once, without question of hesitation, and began to race back toward the gate. The ground began to shake again, yet more violently, and Luke heard the sound of laughter-Abeloth's laughter- following them as they ran for their very lives."
Just so you know; Luke doesn't atomizes other Force-users left and right and is not untouchable or without weaknesses. This whole "godlization" of Luke from fans is irritating to be honest.
Well to be fair, he tore through 16 Sith in a state near death...
Luke could not defeat these beings by himself. He was aided by his allies to stop these beings.Luke winning a battle or two against these beings, is not an indication of his superiority over them.
Against either of them he was only aided by one other. Palpatine with Leia, Abeloth with Krayt...regardless, either is impressive, for both Palpatine (DE) and Abeloth are stronger then Vitiate.
I never claimed that Vitiate was in his prime condition during this encounter. Still you need to give HoT some credit for carving his way through lot of impressive opposition to reach the position of Sith Emperor.
So? Revan tore through those Star Forges forces, which at hundreds of Dark Side Adepts and troopers. And we all know Luke>Revan.
HoT had acquired such talents that even extremely powerful dark side nexuses didn't diminish his capabilities. On the contrary, Luke's powers diminished on Dromund Kaas near its strongest nexuses? So we have self-explanatory comparison here.
Read by counter to that further above ^
HoT had reached a point that he could perform amazing feats without even gestures
And Luke couldn't? lol
Once Luke adapted to the threat of Vong and learned about their weaknesses, the Vong found him to be unstoppable. Same is true for Jacen. Now do you consider Jacen to be on par with Luke?
No, but Caedus is above the Hero. ^.^
The Knight survives impossible odds to defeat Angral's menacing Sith apprentices and thwart their plans to unleash world-shattering destruction.
Poor comparison. Luke fought these Sith at a state I belived actually described by Ben as worse then death...he was just in Beyond the Shadows for like a couple months.
HoT seems to fit the bill. He represents a prophesized champion of the light too.
Nope, I wouldn't even put the Hero above Mace. And if so, ever so slightly.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Also, this whole "multiple blades wielding" thing is not much of an argument. Look at Darth Thanaton wielding multiple blades:Of-course, Darth Thanton is/was a superb swordsman but the picture above is self-explanatory.
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Luke had twice as many with a single blade.
Originally posted by pencilcrayon
Since he's using a saber staff, he's only produced 19 images from 2 blades or just 9.5 after images per blade.Luke had twice as many with a single blade.
Plus he is spinning it helicopter style.... Lol who cares. Grievous can also do that but at what appears to be an even faster speed. And yet, no one uses that as evidence as him being a skilled duelist.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Thanaton's
http://i.imgur.com/HswxYDf.jpg
Should be fixed in this ?
Expanded the image and added numbers to them.
