Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why would Abrams listen to him ? It wasn't his show anymore. Star Wars is just fine.

Let's be honest, Abrams created a movie that catered to the lowest common denominator of fans. People who had to pull out their inhalers when they saw the Millennium Falcon and almost had a seizure when Han Solo showed up.

The fans who just wanted to see a new space adventure on the other hand got the middle finger.

Originally posted by Astner
Yeah, why would you take advice from someone who singlehandedly created the franchise you're working on?

Let's be honest, Abrams created a movie that catered to the lowest common denominator of fans. People who had to pull out their inhalers when they saw the Millennium Falcon and almost had a seizure when Han Solo showed up.

The fans who just wanted to see a new space adventure on the other hand got the middle finger.

That's your opinion and you couldn't keep up despite pirating the film.

It was a new space adventure. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
They obviously had different visions of where this should go and we see how insanely successful TFA is already.

It was a bad movie, and a slap to the face to every Star Wars fan with a three-digit IQ.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was a new space adventure. 😂

Originally posted by Astner
Yeah, why would you take advice from someone who singlehandedly created the franchise you're working on?

because he's gone batshit and sucks at writing.

Originally posted by Astner
Why do you keep bringing up its ticket sales? Its financial success had nothing to do with the quality of the film. It if was just two hours of Jar-Jar taking a shit it would still have been a financial success.

It was a bad movie, and a slap to the face to every Star Wars fan with a three-digit IQ.

No. It was A New Hope with some small changes.

Says the same guy who can't remember what happened in the film.

Nah, don't be so salty, kid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quality is subjective but the dollar value isn't.

Selling tickets on the other hand boils down to three main factors: brand, marketing and public relations. The people buying the tickets had no clue as to whether they'd enjoy the movie or not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They didn't make the film to be the most original film out there they wanted to make boatloads of cash while making an entertaining film for the fans. They succeeded.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the same guy who can't remember what happened in the film.

Originally posted by Astner
No it's not. The entire field of literary studies is dedicated to how to write right. It's not like you can hand any idiot a pen and expect them to write a good and compelling story.

Selling tickets on the other hand boils down to three main factors: brand, marketing and public relations. The people buying the tickets had no clue as to whether they'd enjoy the movie or not.

😆

Intelligence has very little to do with memory. Even so, it was so unmemorable that I barely paid any attention to it.

Word of mouth was also pretty good as was the majority of the critics. It was a huge success so why would Disney think they erred when they are making boatloads of cash ?

So people who can't remember anything you'd deem highly intelligent. Interesting. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is still subjective and don't let anyone else fool you. Think for yourself. You assuming you can determine a preference for anyone other than yourself just shows you're a fool.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Word of mouth was also pretty good as was the majority of the critics. It was a huge success so why would Disney think they erred when they are making boatloads of cash ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So people who can't remember anything you'd deem highly intelligent. Interesting. 😂

Originally posted by Astner
It has nothing to do with preference. I broke this movie down and explained where it failed from a story-telling perspective in terms of basic literary techniques.

The movie sucks and no amount of revenue will save it from that.

Is that what you gathered from what I wrote?

I disagree but companies make high budget films to make a huge profit. They succeeded.

Memory isn't the highest form of intelligence but those without it are lower than those who can remember. Common sense, sport. If only if it were so common.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iyo. Your opinion isn't a fact. It's just an opinion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree but companies make high budget films to make a huge profit. They succeeded.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Memory isn't the highest form of intelligence but those without it are lower than those who can remember. Common sense, sport. If only if it were so common.

Originally posted by Astner
No it's not. According to these literary outlines the movie is objectively bad.

That kind of success is useless to anyone except the stockholders.

Memory isn't a form of intelligence at all. There's a reason why Isaac Newton had to re-deduce theorems he hadn't written down, and his genius was almost singlehandedly responsible for the industrial revolution.

It will green light more sequels so it's great for the fans. If the movie was a colossal failure then it wouldn't be viable for them to continue to make Star Wars films.

If you can't remember anything then you have a very low intelligence. Memory is huge, kid.

In terms of financial success I actually hope this does beat Avatar, because no other SW movie will get that chance IMO. No matter how much better than this film they are, they just wouldn't have the same hype.

Although it's looking like a struggle at this point. Most projections have it finishing somewhere between 2.2 and 2.4 Billion.

Should beat Titanic without too much problem though.

It opens in China today. That's huge market.

Originally posted by queeq
It opens in China today. That's huge market.

Good luck Len & Ley!
The Folce Awakens.

Originally posted by queeq
It opens in China today. That's huge market.

If it can make $500mill in China that will help it's chances A Lot.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
In terms of financial success I actually hope this does beat Avatar, because no other SW movie will get that chance IMO. No matter how much better than this film they are, they just wouldn't have the same hype.

Although it's looking like a struggle at this point. Most projections have it finishing somewhere between 2.2 and 2.4 Billion.

Should beat Titanic without too much problem though.

I'd rather it not to be honest. I like TFA more than Avatar but it is an old and very well established movie franchise, whereas Avatar was at least something new and a lot more experimental, even if it did just amount to Dances with Wolves in Space. It is just more heartening to see a passion project on top than a film with such a rabid fan base.

Originally posted by queeq
It opens in China today. That's huge market.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
I'd rather it not to be honest. I like TFA more than Avatar but it is an old and very well established movie franchise, whereas Avatar was at least something new and a lot more experimental, even if it did just amount to Dances with Wolves in Space. It is just more heartening to see a passion project on top than a film with such a rabid fan base.

That's true. Avatar being a passion project is more akin to the Original Star Wars.

Still something has to beat it eventually. I'd rather it beat Star Wars. And falling after 6 years is pretty damn good.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That's true. Avatar being a passion project is more akin to the Original Star Wars.

Still something has to beat it eventually. I'd rather it beat Star Wars. And falling after 6 years is pretty damn good.

You'd rather avatar beat it. Unbelievable. Traitor!!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'd rather it BE Star Wars.

Corrected.