Originally posted by quanchi112
Why didn't anyone force crush cad bane ? Actually watch Star Wars stuff, k !
Because Vader's not just "anyone".
Go run away again.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The Star Wars clone wars series is canon too. You can't ignore these bounty hunters being legit threats and beating Jedi left and right.
Really which Jedi was that? Because Ahsoka beat him until he surprise attacked her (and she was kid padawan at the time). And the last time Obi-Wan fought him as Rako Hardeen he kicked Cad Bane's butt pretty easily.
The very best Bounty Hunters and Madalorians can be problematic for Jedi with their jet packs and multiple weapons. But they're still clearly outmatched by the best Jedi.
Run away now little boy.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERNeither is Obi, any notable Jedi. Hell, Obi beat vader in his prime.
Because Vader's not just "anyone".Go run away again.
Really which Jedi was that? Because Ahsoka beat him until he surprise attacked her (and she was kid padawan at the time). And the last time Obi-Wan fought him as Rako Hardeen he kicked Cad Bane's butt pretty easily.
The very best Bounty Hunters and Madalorians can be problematic for Jedi with their jet packs and multiple weapons. But they're still clearly outmatched by the best Jedi.
Run away now little boy.
Obi. That is untrue. Bane had fought two Jedi at once and was looking like he was getting the better of both.
False. Jango Fett was not clearly outmatched by Obi. He even looked good against Windu before his jet pack malfunctioned. Pre vizsla also fought pretty close to Darth Maul before dying and maul always was more formidable than Obi was.
Saying these guys stand no chance is ignoring a lot of evidence and making up force feats in your own delusional minds. Evidence >>> your own twisted imagination.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Neither is Obi, any notable Jedi. Hell, Obi beat vader in his prime.
What?
TCW/ROTS Obi did not beat the machine Vader who crushed an At-At.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Obi. That is untrue. Bane had fought two Jedi at once and was looking like he was getting the better of both.
I suggest you actually watch the whole series before you tell me what's true and what's not.
Obi-Wan does have low showings at times, but the last time he fought Bane he was in the guise of Rako Hardeem and kicked his ass. In fact he embarrassed him that whole story arc, because he was pretending to be a Bounty Hunter, and with his Jedi abilities ended up being by far the most capable bounty hunter. It wasn't even close.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Jango Fett was not clearly outmatched by Obi. He even looked good against Windu before his jet pack malfunctioned. Pre vizsla also fought pretty close to Darth Maul before dying and maul always was more formidable than Obi was.
AOTC Kenobi was trying to take Jango prisoner, and Jango even had aid from his Ship. And yet Jango still ran from him.
Pre-Vizsla lost solidly to Maul, and he used every weapon at his disposal. Pre-Vizsla was the head of a warrior clan, so had to be the hardest f***er out of all of them.
Maul's inferior brother however was casually force choking the other mandalorians left right and center in that episode.
Nice attempts at trolling though. But unlike Khan all these guys can fly, and have weapons built into their suit/armor.
So you can stop derailing the thread AGAIN.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm enjoying this Star Wars discussion on Obi and the Fett's. If you are okay with it, I would like to continue to read your back and forth on this subject with Quan.
Oh I don't mind continuing. Just not sure it's the right thread for it.
Kind of derailing the Force Awakens topic.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERmachine vader was far slower and had less force powers due to the dismemberment of his body by Obi. Vader was at his best and most maneuverable in that film.
What?TCW/ROTS Obi did not beat the machine Vader who crushed an At-At.
I suggest you actually watch the whole series before you tell me what's true and what's not.
Obi-Wan does have low showings at times, but the last time he fought Bane he was in the guise of Rako Hardeem and kicked his ass. In fact he embarrassed him that whole story arc, because he was pretending to be a Bounty Hunter, and with his Jedi abilities ended up being by far the most capable bounty hunter. It wasn't even close.
AOTC Kenobi was trying to take Jango prisoner, and Jango even had aid from his Ship. And yet Jango still ran from him.
Pre-Vizsla lost solidly to Maul, and he used every weapon at his disposal. Pre-Vizsla was the head of a warrior clan, so had to be the hardest f***er out of all of them.
Maul's inferior brother however was casually force choking the other mandalorians left right and center in that episode.
Nice attempts at trolling though. But unlike Khan all these guys can fly, and have weapons built into their suit/armor.
So you can stop derailing the thread AGAIN.
False. You are forgetting bane against two Jedi. Do I need to find it again on Netflix and reference the fight to jog your memory ?
Provide me with the episode so I can reach that scene and dispel your exaggerations.
So you admit Obi failed to capture him. Obi himself along with Anakin and dooku were held prisoner by that laughable joke pirate. So let's not talk about being held prisoner as those Jedi were laughable detained by a bunch of schmucks.
Maul was greater than him I agree but it was a close fight. It was not one sided domination. Quit lying. The point is maul couldn't just easily dismiss him with his force powers but needed to use his skills and powers together to win. This is what I have always maintained. Bounty hunters pose a threat to Jedi and sith. To suggest otherwise is just denial.
Savage oppress was but he can't easily do so to those of great skill. Dooku even force choked Obi during their battle but that isn't enough to beat him. It still took his skill and use of powers at key moments. Just like at a key moment maul force pushed Obi over the edge in a phantom menace.
Khan does not need to fly. His weaponry is far more deadly than these bounty hunters and his tactical acumen is on another level. He's also extremely superhumanly athletic and has cellular regeneration to boot.