Who wins the race: Surfer vs Flash

Started by DarkSaint8528 pages

That's my central premise all this while.

If I told someone I drove from NYC to Boston and back in 6 hours to pick my old grandmammy up, but I kept to just under the speed limits when driving back with her......that means I MUST have been driving like a bat out of hell from NYC to Boston, in order to make it there and back again in six hours.

Originally posted by Mindset
It's clearly stated that this happened at speeds less than that of c.
Writer intent is irrelevant when they're too dumb to write it, and instead write something completely different - and then it gets published.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's my central premise all this while.

If I told someone I drove from NYC to Boston and back in 6 hours to pick my old grandmammy up, but I kept to just under the speed limits when driving back with her......that means I MUST have been driving like a bat out of hell from NYC to Boston, in order to make it there and back again in six hours.

That is completely feasible

Originally posted by Cogito
Writer intent is irrelevant when they're too dumb to write it, and instead write something completely different - and then it gets published.

Exactly 👆

How many times did the writer say this happened at less than light speed? When flash was slumping Over at the end of the feat, it was still stated as less than light speed. Trying to add billions of light speed to this sub-light feat is highly laughable. You cannot take away or add to this feat just cause you don't like the speed given. The writer ment under light speed and that's final. I'm sure he knows what he wanted.

Originally posted by JBL
How many times did the writer say this happened at less than light speed? When flash was slumping Over at the end of the feat, it was still stated as less than light speed. Trying to add billions of light speed to this sub-light feat is highly laughable. You cannot take away or add to this feat just cause you don't like the speed given. The writer ment under light speed and that's final. I'm sure he knows what he wanted.

Wrong as usual!

On panel showing over rules narration or writers interviews.

So if Odin is stated to be omnipotent and then gets his ass beaten damn the on panel evidence. Odin is omnipotent because narration says so, even though on panel evidence says othetwise?

Originally posted by JBL
How many times did the writer say this happened at less than light speed?

Once, the same number of times he showed the opposite.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Wrong as usual!

On panel showing over rules narration or writers interviews.

So if Odin is stated to be omnipotent and then gets his ass beaten damn the on panel evidence. Odin is omnipotent because narration says so, even though on panel evidence says othetwise?

Whose speed do you think lm going to accept? The guy who wrote the book and gave a speed or a mad fan with real life calculations pertaining to a comic?

Originally posted by staxamillion
I think what DS is saying is making sense but I don't think it's what the writer intended. I think the writer just poopooed it

Yep.

Originally posted by JBL
How many times did the writer say this happened at less than light speed? When flash was slumping Over at the end of the feat, it was still stated as less than light speed. Trying to add billions of light speed to this sub-light feat is highly laughable. You cannot take away or add to this feat just cause you don't like the speed given. The writer ment under light speed and that's final. I'm sure he knows what he wanted.

Well, yes, because the last trip Flash made was under the speed of ligjt, as he was running out of the city, carrying a little Korean grandma.

So he's still under light speed, I agree. His last trip was under light speed.

Doesn't negate the first statement though.

@carver: Put your panties back on.

Originally posted by JBL
How many times did the writer say this happened at less than light speed? When flash was slumping Over at the end of the feat, it was still stated as less than light speed. Trying to add billions of light speed to this sub-light feat is highly laughable. You cannot take away or add to this feat just cause you don't like the speed given. The writer ment under light speed and that's final. I'm sure he knows what he wanted.
You realize these are 'writer statements' as well, right?

You realize Flash literally could NOT have preformed this feat if he were moving sub-c the entire time, right?

Originally posted by Galan007
You realize these are 'writer statements' as well, right?

You realize Flash literally could NOT have preformed this feat if he were moving sub-c the entire time, right?

Nor could superman bench the weight of the planet on the planet for 5 days and not watch the Earth crumble., but it happened and earth was fine. That's comic's. Writer said under light speed. Accept it at face value.

Faulty analogy, as Superman wasn't *actually* pressing the earth in that scene. 🙂

Anywho, either the writer made a clear error, as the feat simply could not have been preformed if Flash were moving sub-c the entire time, OR Flash was only moving sub-c when he carried the people away from the blast. 🙂

We ARE accepting it at face value, lol.

CARRIED under light speed.

We all agree on that.

We also know how long the entire evacuation took.

It's you and carver who aren't accepting it at face value, lol.

For the record, heavily low balling the distance, it would take light a little (and I do mean a little) over 100 seconds. That's just going by taking them two at a time every time(when he did not) and not factoring the traveling IN the city at all.

The writers intent is that the entire feat was performed at sub-light speed. Not sub-light then billions of times faster than light then back to sub-light speed. Lol

Originally posted by JBL
The writers intent is that the entire feat was performed at sub-light speed. Not sub-light then billions of times faster than light then back to sub-light speed. Lol

Here's a tip. If you're going to argue people are misinterpreting comics, don't continue arguing after your analogy has you misinterpreting comics.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Here's a tip. If you're going to argue people are misinterpreting comics, don't continue arguing after your analogy has you misinterpreting comics.
Here's another tip. If the person who wrote the comic and wanted the speed to be sub-light, Take his words and not h1 like calculations from readers who have no say in the writing of the comic.

Originally posted by JBL
Whose speed do you think lm going to accept? The guy who wrote the book and gave a speed or a mad fan with real life calculations pertaining to a comic?

In other words, you subscribe to the idea that Odin is omnipotent.

Which is laughable at best.

So according to your logic, Odin is omnipotent when clearly he is not 👆

Found this calc I did in 2008 ...

"The blogger writes: 'He ran a total of 17,500,000 miles in one hundred-thousandth of a microsecond. Multiply that by one hundred thousand to get the distance he can run in one second, and then that by sixty by the distance he can run in one minute, and then that by sixty again to get his mph. I got 6,300,000,000,000,000,000,000mph. 6.3 sextillion miles per. That’s 34,054,054,054,054,054 times the speed of light.'

That's not what I got. The blogger made 2 errors.

1. Assuming Flash carried two people at once, he made 250,000 70-mile roundtrips. That's 17,500,000 miles (so far so good). Now the blogger makes his first mistake: 17,500,000 miles x 100,000 x 3600 = 6,300,000,000,000,000 or 6.3 quadrillion (not septillion) miles per hour. Let's simplify by keeping it per second: 17,500,000 x 100,000 = 1,750,000,000,000 or 1.75 trillion miles. Divide this by 186,000 and you get 9.4 million cee: far, Far, FAR less than what the blogger posted.

But all is not lost.

2. Second error: Flash carries two people at once, making 250,000 70-mile roundtrips for a total of 17,500,000 miles in .00001 (1/100,000th) of a microsecond, which is already 1/1,000,000th (.000001) of a second. So the blogger is wrong when he says "Multiply that by one hundred thousand to get the distance he can run in one second." Actually, multiply by 10^11 (100 billion) to see what Flash ran in one second.

This comes out to 1,750,000,000,000,000,000 (about 1.75 quintillion) miles in 1 second. Divide 1.75 quintillion by 186,000 and you get about 9.4 trillion cee. If Flash carried one person at a time, you get about 19 teracee.

Again, far, Far, FAR less than 34 quadrillion cee, but still very impressive."

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Clearly the writer didn't know what he was writing or didn't care. Too bad. He threw all those cool numbers in, which gave the feat an air of realism. It's one of the best speed feats I'm aware of, especially since it wasn't a simple, straightforward run: Flash was lifting and carrying people, safely, over and over and over.