Who wins the race: Surfer vs Flash

Started by DarkSaint8528 pages

Play nicely, guys. One side throws insults, pay it no mind.

Unless its carver 😛

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
There is still some decent Marvel debators though and some of the neutral guys like DS are good debators too.

Just saying that the heavily biased marvel debators we have left are really not as good.

They're no better or worse than the worst DC ones, but this isn't the time or place.

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JBL, when a mod tells people to stop, they're supposed to stop. When they don't, they get banned.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Play nicely, guys. One side throws insults, pay it no mind.

Unless its carver 😛

I agree, lets play nice.

Originally posted by -Pr-
They're no better or worse than the worst DC ones, but this isn't the time or place.

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JBL, when a mod tells people to stop, they're supposed to stop. When they don't, they get banned.

I agree.

But I kind of miss reading god arguments like in the old debates with the good debators that are gone.

Now is mostly arguments like "Hulk was grey because the sun is orange" and things like that what We read on debates.

I really like to read Mr. Master's arguments, those are mostly good 👆

Flash or Superman would beat Surfer in a race

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I agree.

But I kind of miss reading god arguments like in the old debates with the good debators that are gone.

Now is mostly arguments like "Hulk was grey because the sun is orange" and things like that what We read on debates.

I really like to read Mr. Master's arguments, those are mostly good 👆

It did used to be better, I agree. There are still good people here, but a lot of good ones either don't post as much anymore, or just aren't here anymore.

Thanks, Pr.

Originally posted by carver9
Answer this, then I will read your post. It states At 13:57 and .000001 Microseconds 500000 people dematerialize. The question is "at 13:57 AND .000001 microseconds. What does that mean?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@carver : It doesn't say dematerialise...i think you meant materialise?

The earlier part of the page says at 13:57 the nuke exploded.

At 13:57:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:01 (or whatever it is), 500,000 people seemed to materialise 35 miles away.

So in between the nuke exploding at 13:57 and 13:57:00:00:00....(can't be arsed to write it all out) Flash evacuated the entire city all to a safe location 35 miles away.

Tbh, I didn't know where you were going with this...

Originally posted by Juntai
http://i.imgur.com/7jhNl6g.jpg

Assuming I'm doing the math right, at 2.5 quintillion miles/ps. Flash was doing something like 400k lightyears per second.

And of course, Flash can also speedforce his way through time/space/dimension as well, so the warpspeed stuff doesn't mean much.

I phucked up. I always read it as .00001 seconds and not .00001 microseconds which changes everything drastically

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I agree.

But I kind of miss reading god arguments like in the old debates with the good debators that are gone.

Now is mostly arguments like "Hulk was grey because the sun is orange" and things like that what We read on debates.

I really like to read Mr. Master's arguments, those are mostly good 👆

no one can really argue for marvel in this case though. flash is faster. it's not a matter of opinion at this point. for every ONE speed feat ss has that MIGHT be viewed as flash-esque, flash has DOZENS and has quantifiable feats ss can't come close to. so you get guys who you should just have on ignore, spouting off like they have a point. the thread was settled long ago, and anyone who knows anything about comics knows to not bother with the thread any longer because it's pointless. if someone thinks ss is faster than the flash at this point, they are being willfully obtuse, or they're trolling. both are reasons to simply ignore the thread. the best posters all know this so you'll never get good discussion in a thread like this. /shrug

I dont think the recent topics has been about who is faster, Flash or Surfer. I think it has progressed to something completely different.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think the recent topics has been about who is faster, Flash or Surfer. I think it has progressed to something completely different.
Correct. It got to the point of how people viewed the feat of flash evacuating that city, nothing to do with who's faster. Don't know what the hell Leo is talking about.😏

Well, with the city evacuation feat, as PG realises, that makes Flash exponentially faster than Surfer.

It does not.

Well, how far did Flash go in 0.00001 microseconds?

Then we can see how far Surfer goes in the same period of time.

Whoever is faster, wins the race.

I was thinking the writer just wrote something cool then never thought that just under lightspeed couldn't possibly do what he described, but now that I realize both Carter and JBL are arguing for Flash didn't go FTL, I can no longer stand by that. It can't be the correct answer when both of them are on that side.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Since Marvelites love so much narration and what writters have to said after the comic is published.

Marvel loses here everytime. As per rules of the universes

Marvel speed barriers:
Speed of sound
Speed of light
Dimensional travel
Time travel

DC's speed barriers
Speed of sound
Speed of light
Dimensional travel
Time travel
Speed force

There is no speed force in Marvel that is why in Marvel no one is as fast as the Flash, canon.

Not a Flash fan but don't have a problem with Flash being faster than Surfer but that argument doesn't neccessarily get you a win.

People try to downplay the city evac feat because the narration says it was just lightspeed or whatever.

Irrelevant. We know the time it took him to do what he did. Just because the writer is bad at math doesn't negate the feat.

Originally posted by Surtur
People try to downplay the city evac feat because the narration says it was just lightspeed or whatever.

Irrelevant. We know the time it took him to do what he did. Just because the writer is bad at math doesn't negate the feat.

I'd agree with that.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I was thinking the writer just wrote something cool then never thought that just under lightspeed couldn't possibly do what he described, but now that I realize both Carter and JBL are arguing for Flash didn't go FTL, I can no longer stand by that. It can't be the correct answer when both of them are on that side.
Don't forget to including the writer who gave us the speed he wanted. Blaming the writer does not work. He said sub-light, so let the man have HIS story and the speed HE wanted.