Originally posted by JBL
Don't forget to including the writer who gave us the speed he wanted. Blaming the writer does not work. He said sub-light, so let the man have HIS story and the speed HE wanted.
The writer also ONLY said he carried them under light speed. To do any more, would be to add our own speculation etc.
Originally posted by carver9
Let's reword this. "His body sloughs off the screaming after effect of near light speed travel.
So your initial point, that running near light speed exhausted him (and thus, hoping to imply that going above light speed would be impossible) is moot.
Btw, I think I've figured out why you were asking about 13:57.
Please don't tell me you were hoping to make a point that Flash took 13 hours, 57 minutes and 0.00001 microseconds to evacuate everyone?
Please don't....
Also the thermal radiation moves at the speed of light.
Flash had to move many times faster than light to save 500,000 people before they were hit with the thermal radiation.
Basically, Carver and JBL are saying that if a character WAS SHOWN ON PANEL moving faster than a supersonic bullet but the writer says only they were going 30mph then we should accept that they only went 30mph but somehow ran faster than a supersonic bullet?
It's even more limited than that.
They just want to ignore every other statement, and just pluck '30mph' out, regardless of context, and use that as the speed.
Never mind if the sentence says 'The bullet exited the target at 30mph'. No, according to them, the words are 30mph, so it must have struck at 30mph.
It's like speed reading,and only plucking certain words out.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Even if he were to do it 1 second, as opposed to .00001 MICROseconds, it would still be like a double digit x lightspeed feat.
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Even if you assume it's actually 1 second [which is absurd, because most of them would be killed by the nuclear blast if they'd still be there after the first fraction of a second], it still means he carried 532,000 people * 1.5 back/forth (sometimes one person, sometimes two) * 35 miles in a second = 147 times the speed of light.
This isn't even accounting for the fact that they were all over the city, and Flash would have to search for them in every basement, apartment, office etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Assuming he travelled at 0.99 times the speed of light (a hair breadth's short), and assuming he carried two at a time (this minimising the number of trips), Flash would have evacuated the city in.......95 seconds.
Yeah, great going Flash.
But at least he evacuated everyone's ashes tho!!!
What a hero!!!
Originally posted by Philosophía
You can't evacuate an entire city of half a million people after a nuclear bomb has gone off, at sub-lightspeed, by carrying them 1-2 at a time.It's intuitive - you don't even need the raw numbers [which the comic provides]
It's legitimately retarded to think otherwise.
That's the one thing that I keep coming back to. When you talk about the inconsistency of the writing, the contradiction and so on, the question still remains:
Could that feat be done at sublight speeds. If not, then Wally obviously went faster than the speed of light.
Can't be done, unless he was carrying tons of ashes.
Writer intent was obviously for him to be going FTL.
Carver and JBL both agree on this. Writer obviously phucked up when writing 'under light speed'. We must take writer intent - that Flash actually saved people, rather than carrying armfuls of ashes out.
Originally posted by -Pr-Yeah, and the bottom line is - the answer really is a simple no. I mean, it's not even close.
Could that feat be done at sublight speeds. If not, then Wally obviously went faster than the speed of light.
You remember how, in For Tomorrow, Brian Azzarello said that Superman transverses galaxies at supersonic speed? It's literally like that.
