Q Continuum vs God

Originally posted by Epicurus
No they don't. There is literally nothing which Morweh did onscreen that the Q can't replicate. When did Morweh claim that? Q also suggested that the Q have always been, instead of evolving into their present state.

Lol. Morweh has pathetic feats, has to rely on retardedly stupid plots to teach humanity a lesson(recreating the Noah-era flood, giving Bruce godlike power etc), and is basically a madman/moron supreme being archetype.

The Q are the top dogs of a universe populated with species possessing godlike abilities. The best comparison one can draw for Morweh on the other hand is a gullible, and comically stupid version of modern-day humanity.

Picard trolling Q is a known BSer. We have the more reliable and level headed Quinn telling us differently.

Creating the entire universe out of nothingness is a "pathetic" feat how? Being the beginning of all that was, is and will be is pathetic, how?

Arguable. The Dowd are another extremely powerful god-like species.

Originally posted by Epicurus
So using the Bible as proof is what Morweh-supporters have been reduced to now? How awful.

Nah, the only thing is needed is one line from Bruce Almighty:

"I'm the one, creator of the heavens and the Earth, the alpha and omega, Bruce, I am God" -God

If you can't warp your mind around what that means and what kind of a combatant an Abrahmic-God would be in the MVF, I don't know what else to say.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Other people resurrected the dead on Stark Trek. So did Silver Surfer and the dude from Green Mile. Are they god now too?

Your hate against God fuels your posts Lest and you are not thinking clearly and have obviously lost touch with the post and maybe reality.

The number of feats which supposedly put God above Q is zero, nada, non-existent.

Originally posted by Robtard
Picard trolling Q is a known BSer. We have the more reliable and level headed Quinn telling us differently.

Creating the entire universe out of nothingness is a "pathetic" feat how? Being the beginning of all that was, is and will be is pathetic, how?

Arguable. The Dowd are another extremely powerful god-like species.

Proof that he created the entire universe from "nothing"? Being at the beginning of the Big Bang is hardly an impressive feat when one is talking about the level of such beings. If I started counting the number of non-Abstracts who have been at the beginning of Creation, let alone the Abstract level characters themselves, I'd go mad. Literally speaking.

The Douwd couldn't bring back the love of his life, and all he did was wipe out an civilization that was somewhere on the same technological level as the Federation. Q on the other hand toyed with Calamarain, a species well above STverse humanity, as if they were microbes to him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nah, the only thing is needed is one line from Bruce Almighty:

"I'm the one, creator of the heavens and the Earth, the alpha and omega, Bruce, I am God" -God

If you can't warp your mind around what that means and what kind of a combatant an Abrahmic-God would be in the MVF, I don't know what else to say.

The actual Abrahamic God would be a chump combatant in the MVF when pitted against similar omnipotentesque beings from other fictional media. Bullying and abusing a tribe of shepherds is far from the same thing as bullying advanced races of spacefaring civilizations.

So what you are saying is... Q chasing after the Enterprise in the first NG episode, is feat that puts him under god.

Originally posted by Epicurus
No it's not. Quinn was a heretic who hated the Q way of life, which is something that was already pointed out in this thread.

Proof that he created the entire universe from "nothing"? Being at the beginning of the Big Bang is hardly an impressive feat when one is talking about the level of such beings. If I started counting the number of non-Abstracts who have been at the beginning of Creation, let alone the Abstract level characters themselves, I'd go mad. Literally speaking.

The Douwd couldn't bring back the love of his life, and all he did was wipe out an civilization that was somewhere on the same technological level as the Federation. Q on the other hand toyed with Calamarain, a species well above STverse humanity, as if they were microbes to him.

Umm, Picard Troll Q is just that, a total arrogant dick who loves to boast and play games. Quinn was level headed and had no reason to lie.

The quote.

They were a gas.

Originally posted by Epicurus
I know absolutely what that means. It means that you're fairly unfamiliar when debating characters which operate on this scale of power, and that your mind is biased in favor of Morweh because he is based on a real-life religious figure for God, while Q is a fictional representation of a sufficiently advanced alien.

The actual Abrahamic God would be a chump combatant in the MVF when pitted against similar omnipotentesque beings from other fictional media. Bullying and abusing a tribe of shepherds is far from the same thing as bullying advanced races of spacefaring civilizations.

Nah. I'm clearly your superior on the subject, as shown.

Nah. Abrahamic-God here would be like the One-Above-All in Marvel, possibly higher, depending on how you see One-Above-All, as pointed out earlier.

Originally posted by Robtard
Creating the entire universe out of nothingness is a "pathetic" feat how? Being the beginning of all that was, is and will be is pathetic, how?

The fact that all that was, is, and will be, thus everything God could muster, was limited to a mere 3 universes, is really pathetic

Originally posted by Robtard
Nah, the only thing is needed is one line from Bruce Almighty:

"I'm the one, creator of the heavens and the Earth, the alpha and omega, Bruce, I am God" -God

God pretty much says in that quote that he created...two universes. Guess how many we saw in the film, and guess how much they're outclassed by the infinite Star Trek multiverse, which the Q preside over.

Originally posted by Robtard
If you can't warp your mind around what that means and what kind of a combatant an Abrahmic-God would be in the MVF, I don't know what else to say.

Like I said before, just agree to disagree and walk away, Rob

Originally posted by Robtard
Umm, Picard Troll Q is just that, a total arrogant dick who loves to boast and play games. Quinn was level headed and had no reason to lie.

The quote.

They were a gas.

The quote doesn't prove that he created the universe from nothing.

They were above STverse humanity which far, far above the shitty Almightyverse humanity.

Lestov,

Repeating your silly '# of universe' thing is a silly tactic. "Heavens" clearly refers to the universe as a whole, notice it's plural. Ancients just called it "heavens" due to a lack of knowledge.

Feel free to walk away then, this thread is mine.

Not a "tactic", it's obvious objective fact. Like you said, the ancients had a lack of knowledge, which caused them to write down a puny tri-versal God instead of an infinite-multiversal being. sorry your subjective interpretation is blinding you from the obvious logical conclusion.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nah. I'm clearly your superior on the subject, as shown.

Nah. Abrahamic-God here would be like the One-Above-All in Marvel, possibly higher, depending on how you see One-Above-All, as pointed out earlier.

Lol, are you f*cking kidding me, comparing the biblical God to Marvel's TOAA? TOAA has actual feats; in that a multiversal omnipotent like the Living Tribunal is subservient to it. Same goes for the Presence in DC. The Biblical God on the other hand is an egomaniacal buffoon who takes great delight in manipulating the lives of a a bunch of middle-eastern shepherds. He's the archetypical child with an anthill.

Preacherverse God is a much better representation of the Abrahamic God instead of what is normally portrayed in popular media.

Originally posted by Epicurus
No you don't. You completely and utterly have not even the slightest idea of the way to gauge which omnipotent character wins against the latter in a forum fight. If I made a Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet vs Morganweh thread, you would likely end up giving the victory to Morweh.

Lol, are you f*cking kidding me, comparing biblical God to Marvel's TOAA? The TOAA has actual feats; in that a multiversal omnipotent like the Living Tribunal is subservient to it. Same goes for the Presence in DC. The Biblical God on the other hand is an egomaniacal buffoon who takes great delight in manipulating the lives of a a bunch of middle-eastern shepherds. He's the archetypical child with an anthill.

Preacherverse God is a much better representation of the Abrahamic God instead of what is normally portrayed in popular media.

You still can't comprehend what Abrahmic-God would be like powers-wise. Would be the infinite being above all others by an infinite amount of power. Thanos lost in the end, there goes that.

Nah, what I said is more accurate.

Didn't read SoaK/don' care.

Originally posted by Robtard
You still can't comprehend what Abrahmic-God would be like powers-wise. Would be the infinite being above all others by an infinite amount of power.

Nah, what I said is more accurate.

Didn't read SoaK/don' care.

False.

Then how can you know the obvious truth that the Abrahamic God is a chump, both personality and power-wise? Read that comic series and see the light. It's a pretty good series as well.

Originally posted by Epicurus
I can, better than you at the very least.

False.

Then how can you know the obvious truth that the Abrahamic God is a chump, both personality and power-wise? Read that comic series and see the light. It's a pretty good series as well.

Thanos lost. There goes your theory. Morgan-God wouldn't lose due to infinite ability.

Nope. Stop trolling.

I get it, you hate religion/think it's dumb. This is a fictionalized version of God. Try and leave your bias at the door.

Originally posted by Robtard
Thanos lost. There goes your theory. Morgan-God wouldn't lose due to infinite ability.

Nope. Stop trolling.

I get it, you hate religion/think it's dumb. This is a fictionalized version of God. Try and leave your bias at the door.

Right back atchya, brolio.

So stop bringing up the bible as support for the character then. Only desperate kooks do that. Try to look at all the feats objectively, and you'll realize that Q himself individually edges out Morweh, and pitting the whole damn Continuum against him would be spite.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Lol, are you f*cking kidding me, comparing the biblical God to Marvel's TOAA?

U mad.

Originally posted by Epicurus
TOAA has actual feats; in that a multiversal omnipotent like the Living Tribunal is subservient to it. Same goes for the Presence in DC. The Biblical God on the other hand is an egomaniacal buffoon who takes great delight in manipulating the lives of a a bunch of middle-eastern shepherds. He's the archetypical child with an anthill.

So like...you're just an idiot.

ToAA IS God. He is just another descriptor (fictional or otherwise) of the same being.

It's like saying Cassius Clay is a better fighter than Muhammad Ali.

Check this out, and you're going to shit yourself: Yahweh God is the creator of an almost infinitely complex multiverse. It may be worse: He could be the creator of an infinite number of multiverses with each multiverse being nearly infinite in complexity.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Preacherverse God is a much better representation of the Abrahamic God instead of what is normally portrayed in popular media.

No, Preacher-verse God would be a better representation of a Q rather than the Judeo-Christian God.

Originally posted by dadudemon
U mad.

So like...you're just an idiot.

ToAA IS God. He is just another descriptor (fictional or otherwise) of the same being.

It's like saying Cassius Clay is a better fighter than Muhammad Ali.

Check this out, and you're going to shit yourself: Yahweh God is the creator of an almost infinitely complex multiverse. It may be worse: He could be the creator of an infinite number of multiverses with each multiverse being nearly infinite in complexity.

No, Preacher-verse God would be a better representation of a Q rather than the Judeo-Christian God.

Comparing omnipotent beings to boxers, lol. That's not even remotely an accurate analogy, especially not when in both the DC and Marvel publications, there is a set power-based hierarchy for such beings. Lucifer Morningstar transcends Dream of the Endless by a HUGE magnitude, even though both can manipulate universes/realities/dimensions as if it were child's play.

Lol, what proof do you have that the real-life Yahweh, let alone Morweh, is a multiversal creator? I mean what do you even hope to gain by making such an idiotically pointless point? Apart from the fact that you want to actually pretend that you get the general idea of this debate better than me, when the reality of the situation is that you're only making an assclown of yourself? Hell, let alone the proof of Yahweh's supposed multiversality, I want you to show me actual evidence that the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics somehow overnight evolved from a hypothesis to a tangible theory. Because after all, how can God be presumed to be the maker of a multiverse when there is no solid evidence yet that our reality is a multiverse?

Wrong. The Q isn't in desperate need for the love of his creations. The Q didn't even create humanity for that matter either. Q does assholish sh1t to get a reaction out of lesser species. The Q is in fact self-aware of its explicit d1ckery/douchebagery. Preacherverse Yahweh did all that shit because he was an egomaniac, and a pretty bad one at that. He had no self-awareness of what his personality actually entailed. He was a genuinely insane being.

Since Time Immemorial did not state "God" has to be limited to on-screen feats...

Seems to me, the problem is accepting whether or not "God" is truly omnipotent (we don't have to deal with whether "He's" real or not because Q, we know, is fiction).

Every mystical text (and certainly every major religion) flat out states, in so many ways, that "God" is the Final Reality, both the Source and Ground of all Being, all Becoming. There is Nothing outside of Him, He is Everything. Period. No qualifiers, no exceptions: unconditionally infinite in every way imaginable and unimaginable. Words, literally, can not express His power (though I'm trying). To try to do so generates paradoxes. Doesn's matter whether you call it a multiverse, multimultiverse, omniverse, Ben's garage, etc. etc. Whatever the infinite Whole is, God created It and is It, eternally so. The All that is One, etc, etc, fancy words, simple words, doesn't matter.

If you accept this (again, read any religious/mystical text: it is the cornerstone of the perennial philosophy), this is not even a contest, like comparing 10^googol to infinity. 10^googol is just as close to Infinity as 1.

Q is at best, a demiurge, a lesser god capable of creating realities within Reality.

However, if one does not see God (Reality Itself) in this manner, then let the debate continue on those God-straightjacketing terms.

Originally posted by Epicurus
At his own hand. The feats of the IG are far better than anything Morweh did onscreen. Stop ignoring that.

Right back atchya, brolio.

So stop bringing up the bible as support for the character then. Only desperate kooks do that. Try to look at all the feats objectively, and you'll realize that Q himself individually edges out Morweh, and pitting the whole damn Continuum against him would be spite.

Stop ignoring the very concept of God and what that entails in regards to a MVF power-set.

I get enough "no you" from another poster.

Here you go then: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God "Supreme Being" right in the first sentence. Many facets, of the same infinite being. Be it Yahweh, Allah, Brahman or even as I mentioned, possibly Marvel's the One-Above-All.

And before you say it, yes, wiki is allowed as support in here. Read the MVF rules (rule #2) as proof if you think I'm BSing.

Why this thread went 10 pages, just silly.