Q Continuum vs God

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You do a good talking up a big game but it fails to the fact that most of Q's creations where hoaxes and pranks on humans and Picard. We see them fighting with swords and muskets in his own creation and he says "its a illusion so can understand" everything Q did was elaborate illusions and Hoaxes on Picard.

Saying Q has total power of everything is a exaggeration. He has some feats, but he has no life creation feats. He has no real universe creation feats other then "pocket illusion universes" that a holodeck could easily re create.

He's admitted he was not a god or optipotent and he can die. You argued that God can't kill himself but he did with Jesus Christ. I see nothing to stop God from making Q or the Continuum cease to exist.

Also, Riker's feats indicate that Q wasn't just pulling off cheap parlor tricks when he performed all those feats. Heck, even when that alien harbringer chick performed a punch of parlor tricks, Piccard refused to believe that it was a Q. The distinction between Q's reality warping powers and illusion-based tricks is made very clear in the series.

The Q can only be killed by Q-made weapons. Nothing indicates that God has access to such weapons. Jesus Christ wasn't omnipotent either.

Because Jesus is Human! JESUS CHRIST!

Oh my God! CHRIST! GOD! GEEZZZuZ CHRIST!

And God could simply make Q made weapons. By Simply saying, You are gonna pull a Q made weapon out of your but.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You do a good talking up a big game

Uh, no. Everything I was was 100% objective fact. Not some stuff of my own opinion, but actual unignorable facts.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
but it fails to the fact that most of Q's creations where hoaxes and pranks on humans and Picard.

You keep asserting this even though you have posted no actual proof of this

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
We see them fighting with swords and muskets in his own creation and he says "its a illusion so can understand"

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
everything Q did was elaborate illusions and Hoaxes on Picard.

Second assertion with no actual proof

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Saying Q has total power of everything is a exaggeration.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He has some feats, but he has no life creation feats.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He has no real universe creation feats

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
other then "pocket illusion universes" that a holodeck could easily re create.

Do holodecks resurrect the dead too?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He's admitted he was not a god or optipotent and he can die.

Only at the hand of an infinite-multiversal being, which the tri-versal Yahweh is most definitely not.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You argued that God can't kill himself but he did with Jesus Christ.

If Jesus is the avatar that Q is going to be fighting, this will be a curbstomp of..wait for it....Biblical Proportions!

badum-tish

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I see nothing to stop God from making Q or the Continuum cease to exist.

Nothing besides the blatant fact that a being whose near-omnipotent (even though nothing has really limited them besides themselves) control extents over an infinite multiverse and has absolute omnipotence over their own n>3 universes that they can create on a whim will definitely be overpowered by the comparatively wimpy Yahweh, who can only create at best 3.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Ok so lets get the the fight then. They both don't need prep as they are already aware of each others powers.

Well instead of prepping the Q, the Q will just laugh that this small fry even attempted to enter their presence with such brazenness that the Biblical God is known for.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Q comes and God, what are they going to do to him?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Hoax him with tricks?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Where is the destructive power?

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Because Jesus is Human! JESUS CHRIST!

Oh my God! CHRIST! GOD! GEEZZZuZ CHRIST!

And God could simply make Q made weapons. By Simply saying, You are gonna pull a Q made weapon out of your but.

And right after nothing appears, the Q will say, 1000 monkeys will come out of yours, and then it will be.

Worf = the Morgan-God debaters

Geordi's Lute = Q fanboys' argument

YouTube video

Does this nonsense really have to go to 10 pages?

Other people resurrected the dead on Stark Trek. So did Silver Surfer and the dude from Green Mile. Are they god now too?

Your hate against God fuels your posts Lest and you are not thinking clearly and have obviously lost touch with the post and maybe reality.

Originally posted by Robtard
Worf = the Morgan-God debaters

Geordi's Lute = Q fanboys' argument

YouTube video

Does this nonsense really have to go to 10 pages?

Well when you concede because you have nothing to defend that a being that can only create 3 universes isn't going to beat a being who can create as many as they want, then yes, this discussion will end. I thought we agreed to disagree, Rob.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Other people resurrected the dead on Stark Trek. So did Silver Surfer and the dude from Green Mile. Are they god now too?

Your hate against God fuels your posts Lest and you are not thinking clearly and have obviously lost touch with the post and maybe reality.

What kind of strawman shit are you trying to pull? I'm not basing this debate on that one factor (I've hardly considered it), I'm basing it on the fact that at their most powerful, God can only create 3 universes (not my opinion, exactly what it says in Genesis) and the Q can create as many as they want. And Silver Surfer and Coffey don't create universes on a whim, so don't know why you mentioned them.

Actually, it's the opposite. I've reached an obvious logical conclusion and your religious bias is blinding you from seeing it.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Well when you concede because you have nothing to defend that a being that can only create 3 universes isn't going to beat a being who can create as many as they want, then yes, this discussion will end. I thought we agreed to disagree, Rob.

What kind of strawman shit are you trying to pull? I'm not basing this debate on that one factor (I've hardly considered it), I'm basing it on the fact that at their most powerful, God can only create 3 universes (not my opinion, exactly what it says in Genesis) and the Q can create as many as they want. And Silver Surfer and Coffey don't create universes on a whim, so don't know why you mentioned them.

Actually, it's the opposite. I've reached an obvious logical conclusion and your religious bias is blinding you from seeing it.

Are you able to debate without cussing and acting like a kid? Other beings in Star Treck resurrected the dead. Like the guy that brought Lt. Warf back to life. You said Q can bring people back to life, its not that uncommon. I'm not religious so you wrong again.

Creating universes is, actually somewhat uncommon. And it's funny that you mention the Star Trek world, because, guess what, it's infinitely bigger than Yahweh's! And guess who, due to having near omnipotence over this infinite multiverse, can and have created and have total omnipotence over n>3? I'll give you 3 guesses 😉

Originally posted by Lestov16
Well when you concede because you have nothing to defend that a being that can only create 3 universes isn't going to beat a being who can create as many as they want, then yes, this discussion will end. I thought we agreed to disagree, Rob.

You're still pulling this "# of universe" bit out of your anus.

Nope. God clearly created a fictional tri-verse according to the Bible. It's even a fictional universe with a fictional geocentric cosmology in which Earth came before the stars. Nothing more. Heaven, Sheol, and Earth are, count em, 3, and none more, universes.

You realize that the Bible is man's way of coping with God, right? Morgan-God would still be the supreme being about all, as nothing created 'him'. Deal with it already before it goes to page 10.

It'll probably reach much farther than that.

Interpretation doesn't mean jack shit. It's an obsolete cosmology and can only be read as a fictional myth. Not my fault a large portion of man were fooled due to societal tradition. He's not the supreme being of everything that man falsely interprets as "all". He's the supreme being of a fiction tri-verse which the Q can easily outclass. Think about this before forcing this debate to a 10th page. This will be my last post, for this page at least. I've laid out my arguments, and they're pretty indisputable. If this goes to page 10, it's on your heads.

God's fictional powers clearly outclass the Q. The Q came into being out of something else. Morgan-God didn't. Deal with it.

If it makes you feel any better, Morgan-God lowers 'himself' to be the most powerful Q and kills the them all via super-musket.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Nope. God clearly created a fictional tri-verse according to the Bible. It's even a fictional universe with a fictional geocentric cosmology in which Earth came before the stars. Nothing more. Heaven, Sheol, and Earth are, count em, 3, and none more, universes.

So before you said he created only 2 universes and now you admit that he created 3?

Originally posted by Robtard
God's fictional powers clearly outclass the Q. The Q came into being out of something else. Morgan-God didn't. Deal with it.

If it makes you feel any better, Morgan-God lowers 'himself' to be the most powerful Q and kills the them all via super-musket.

😆 😆

Originally posted by Robtard
If it makes you feel any better, Morgan-God lowers 'himself' to be the most powerful Q and kills the them all via super-musket.

Uhh, well damn...that's a pretty damn good argument.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So before you said he created only 2 universes and now you admit that he created 3?

The universe creating argument for the Q is weak at best.

Creating very small and very limited universes is incomparable to creating a multiverse which is what Yahweh did.

It's like saying a microbe produces as much energy as a quasar because they both are exothermically positive.

Originally posted by Robtard
God's fictional powers clearly outclass the Q. The Q came into being out of something else. Morgan-God didn't. Deal with it.

If it makes you feel any better, Morgan-God lowers 'himself' to be the most powerful Q and kills the them all via super-musket.

Lol. Morweh has pathetic feats, has to rely on retardedly stupid plots to teach humanity a lesson(recreating the Noah-era flood, giving Bruce godlike power etc), and is basically a madman/moron supreme being archetype.

The Q are the top dogs of a universe populated with species possessing godlike abilities. The best comparison one can draw for Morweh on the other hand is a gullible, and comically stupid version of modern-day humanity.

Originally posted by Robtard
You realize that the Bible is man's way of coping with God, right? Morgan-God would still be the supreme being about all, as nothing created 'him'. Deal with it already before it goes to page 10.