Originally posted by Robtard
Ha.I see what you did there.
Please...please tell me you fell for it...
I need this...
Back to the thread:
The Q do not have the Omniscience that God does. They can hide themselves from each other. No one can hide from God because He is all-knowing.
God can even see you wipe your butt! That's where the poop comes from.
Evidence: Amanda's parents were able to successfully hide on earth for quite some time. If the continuum was really all-powerful, they would just snap their fingers and find them, even if Amanda's parents had "hide me" powers. More Q means more power and the continuum seems to be able to strip another Q of powers (not a single Q but the whole continuum seems to able to take powers away from a single Q).
So...Q are yet again not omni....
Originally posted by Robtard
Correct, he didn't outright say "Bruce, I am omnipotent and infinite". He said it using other words/phrases. Sorry you didn't get the meaning.You must not recall correctly. The monster Typhon, Persephone, Prometheus are all out of Greek mythology. Saying "Ophric Texts" over and over won't make that go away.
Please leave the real world out of this, as you were the one complaining earlier about the Bible. We're discussing from a fictional viewpoint.
Okay, I'll bite. Where did you post it? Incorrect, you have trouble understanding what Morgan-God represents as a fictional character, despite my patience.
Zeus was never beaten in orphic literature. Deal with it.👆
Then at least try not to bring up the bible in the debate. And try to understand that there are dozens of Supreme Beings in fiction, not all of them being the Biblical God.
In virtually every post addressing you? Again, you deliberately missing it is not my fault. Selective ignorance seems to be a common trait of the pro-Morweh side it seems.
Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Fail. You'll have to do better than childish replies.
2. Nope, that was an illusion. All in Picard's head. We saw Picard on the table, the whole time. The burden of proof is on you to prove that it wasn't the ol' Brain in a Vat scenario, which, by all accounts, it was. Additionally, even if you are correct that Q created another universe, it still falls under the "pocket universe" in that it was limited to just what Picard could see and it was not an entire universe: still weaker than omnipotent. 😄
3. Did you just correct my spelling? Surely you did not just correct my spelling? And he did not have unlimited control. It can be taken away so it is not omnipotence. 😄 Also, the Q have been shown to be limited in their power. 😄
4. Yes. Bruce can hear all the prayers. ahahahaah, fail. 😄
5. I accept your concession. Let the butthurt flow through you.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Everything you said here is false. Like always, you have a warped sense of reality. But we both know youz juss trollin', as usual. Bored as hell. Look at how much you reply to people and with such vitriol. hahaOh man.
So f*cking predictable.
Originally posted by dadudemon
None of that is true. I didn't really provide any "feats" until this post. And if I did, they were shitty off-handed or indirect references. Nigga, you iz confusing me for other posters.
Because let's face it, you're all bark and zero bite, eh ddm? kinda
Originally posted by dadudemon
Again, you're trying too hard to be witty but it comes out as clumsy and definitely unfunny. You should leave the wit to people like focus and Sadako. Just stick to the elementary school insults and trolling like you usually do.
Instead of actually even trying to get back at me with counter-insults and a remotely cogent attempt at debating the thread topic, you've been reduced to silly "No You"s and denial tactics.
Originally posted by dadudemon
But...you really really and truly did not. 🙁
Originally posted by dadudemon
I mean, think about what you're posting here, for a bit. Do you see how stupid it is? Do you see how trying to characterize my point the way you are is not even trolling but makes you look like an idiot? I get the trolling stuff...haha, hyuck hyuck, but this doesn't help you troll, bro. It just makes you look dumb to everyone. That's not how you're supposed to troll.
What a stupid troll.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Seriously, ask everyone if they think you're even remotely close to a good point.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
AGAIN.. when did the Q create a universe.. I don't want hyperbole I want the episode in which this happened.
But do go ahead and deny all these feats as illusions, didn't happen, or somehow being lesser in scope as compared to Yahweh's (never performed onscreen) 'omnipotent' feats.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Q claimed omnipotence which was demonstrably false and contradicted by his comrades. 🙂Ever hear of the "Villain boast"? 😉
Quinn the deceptive, radical self-hating Q was the only one who denied their power. Way to go when trying to bring up a reliable account of their non-omnipotence.
Originally posted by Epicurus
None of the other words imply infinitude or omnipotence. Again; just cease and desist with outright lying.Zeus was never beaten in orphic literature. Deal with it.👆
Then at least try not to bring up the bible in the debate. And try to understand that there are dozens of Supreme Beings in fiction, not all of them being the Biblical God.
In virtually every post addressing you? Again, you deliberately missing it is not my fault. Selective ignorance seems to be a common trait of the pro-Morweh side it seems.
Incorrect, his statement was evident he's God, the being above all.
Changing "text" to "literature" does nothing to make your incorrect claims correct.
Try to understand that God in this sense > all others.
So one of Quanchi's favorite tactics. Claim proof was shown and then dance. Poor form; also rather boring.
Originally posted by Epicurus
1. So you refuse to admit that Bruce had considerable limitations placed on his abilities, as opposed to Riker who had none? Outright denial of things that happen onscreen should be added to your resume it seems.
2. Lol, the same baseless "illusion" claim being repeated without any evidence to back it up. Try to come up with a new retort while you're at it. Piccard knows what a cheap illusion is(he has dealt with it when facing a being that they wrongly thought was a rogue Q), and he knows that none of Q's so-called tricks are mere illusions.
3. Yes he did. By a group of omnipotent beings. Again, levels of infinity, broski.
4. And they almost overwhelmed him at first. Bruce is also not omniscient, otherwise he would have known the dastardly consequences of giving everyone what they want. Prime Intellect from the Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect was a better God than either Bruce or Morgan Freeman.
5. Sure, whatever you need to say that helps you sleep at night, quanlite. 😂
1. No-limits fallacy, sir! Try again. Also, SSSSTTTRRRAAAWWWWWMMMMAAAAAN! 😉 You're waaay off your game, this morning.
2. Citation needed. 🙂
3. No he clearly didn't. 🙂 You lose. Onscreen feats contradict you. If you want to peddle your pseudo-philsophy, you'll have to provide onscreen evidence. Which you can't because it is directly contradicted by onscreen evidence. Q said "omnipotence" not "weak-omnipotence." This concept would have been known to both Q and Picard because they were both well-versed on human philosphy.
4. "They", huh? Nice try. Fail. Bruce was clearly limited as stated onscreen. Troll harder. No such limitation exists for God as seen on screen.
5. I'll sleep just fine, British Citizen.
Originally posted by Epicurus
You didn't provide any feats period.
YES!
I win, again! I accept your concession. At least you outright admitted I was right, this time. You're getting better.
Originally posted by Epicurus
I consider this as definitive proof of the fact that my insult really hit a nerve with you.😂
Not even close. It's just a tad cringe-worthy, mate. Some people got it and some people don't.
Originally posted by Epicurus
I did, and like every debate between the 2 of us where you end up with blood seeping from your ass along with my e-semen, I fully succeeded in what I did. 😆
Congratulations: you've now posted an insult a la Rogue Jedi. I hope you're proud.
Originally posted by Epicurus
You would have actually realized what the 1+1=1 joke
I don't need to read any further. Sorry, dude, you're far more transparent than you think. It has always been a stupid insult that just made you look dumber. 🙁
Originally posted by Epicurus
What a stupid troll.
Insult the points, not the person, dude. That's how you avoid getting banned (no one cares, anymore).
Originally posted by Epicurus
Might as well start claiming that the whole of Bruce Almighty was centered around a paranoid schizophrenic's point of view then.
Awww. Look at you throwing a strawman fit. 🙁
Originally posted by Epicurus
When were Q's powers ever shown to have a constraint when not in the presence of other omnipotent beings? Oh I forgot, you have a specially made for dadudemon, director's cut version of the series where such a thing happens, it seems.
But you see, none of them are omnipotent. 🙂 This is why you fail.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Quinn the deceptive, radical self-hating Q was the only one who denied their power. Way to go when trying to bring up a reliable account of their non-omnipotence.
So you continue to deny onscreen facts, eh?
You can't hide behind Ushgarak, in here. You'll get reported and no one will give a ****.
Originally posted by Epicurus
When Q created an alternate universe just to teach Piccard the value of leadership skills. When Amanda Rogers whisked away Riker and herself to realm created by her complete with stars, galaxies, and an Earth-like planet all to themselves. When Q created an afterlife like dimension and pretended to be God to mess around with Piccard.But do go ahead and deny all these feats as illusions, didn't happen, or somehow being lesser in scope as compared to Yahweh's (never performed onscreen) 'omnipotent' feats.
This post has lots of unsubstantiated bullshit in it so I will re-write it to be less shitty:
When Q created a pocket universe or created an elaborate illusion to show Picard that he made the correct choices to become the man he is. When Amanda Rogers whisked away Riker and herself to realm or illusion, it had stars, galaxies, and an Earth-like planet all to themselves. Also, when Q created an afterlife like dimension and pretended to be God to mess around with Picard. Mind you, none of these creations/illusions come even close to comparing to the scale of the whole Universe.
Fixed the name errors, story errors, and overreaching claims. It now reads with less bias.
After watching Star Trek: The Next Generation a second time (a couple of years ago), I came to the conclusion that the Q are a godlike species with marginal control over the laws of physics, but they are not Omnipotent as Q claimed and have clear limitations.
I noticed you overlooked the onscreen evidence that indicated Q did not have telepathy, Epicurus. Couldja kind of acknowledge that n'stuff?
Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect, his statement was evident he's God, the being above all.Changing "text" to "literature" does nothing to make your incorrect claims correct.
Try to understand that God in this sense > all others.
So one of Quanchi's favorite tactics. Claim proof was shown and then dance. Poor form; also rather boring.
Incorrect based on what? Your butthurt? I don't think so.
😂 So he's > rl-verse as well? Since "all others" clearly includes everything from johnsons baby lotion to the entire real world.
But that would be the case if you had actually deigned to show any proof. All you've relied on so far is character hyperbole, and ignored/lowballed every single feat presented for the opposing side. Never mind the bible bullshit which polluted this thread.
Because it's not like quan pulls of any of that crap either. 🙄
Originally posted by Robtard
As pointed out over and over, creating everything that exist > what Q has done.Incorrect based on you being wrong about Zeus.
Why do you keep bringing in reality when it's fiction.
Proof has been shown for pages.
A "no you". Hmmm, where did that come from.
Incorrect based on you not even having the first clue what I am talking about here.
Because your retarded "He made everything! He's > all! Oh, I have a wet God-boner so I refuse to apply any sort of reason or objectivity to my statements!" claims.
Lies have been posted for pages. Along with pathetic lowballing and chimpanzee style mental gymnastics, which would put even quanchi to shame.
When your bullshit is pointed out to you, it's always wise not to respond with more bullshit.
Originally posted by dadudemon
1. No-limits fallacy, sir! Try again. Also, SSSSTTTRRRAAAWWWWWMMMMAAAAAN! You're waaay off your game, this morning.
2. Citation needed.
3. No he clearly didn't. You lose. Onscreen feats contradict you. If you want to peddle your pseudo-philsophy, you'll have to provide onscreen evidence. Which you can't because it is directly contradicted by onscreen evidence. Q said "omnipotence" not "weak-omnipotence." This concept would have been known to both Q and Picard because they were both well-versed on human philosphy.
4. "They", huh? Nice try. Fail. Bruce was clearly limited as stated onscreen. Troll harder. No such limitation exists for God as seen on screen.
5. I'll sleep just fine, British Citizen.YES!
I win, again! I accept your concession. At least you outright admitted I was right, this time. You're getting better.
Not even close. It's just a tad cringe-worthy, mate. Some people got it and some people don't.
Congratulations: you've now posted an insult a la Rogue Jedi. I hope you're proud.
I don't need to read any further. Sorry, dude, you're far more transparent than you think. It has always been a stupid insult that just made you look dumber. 🙁
Insult the points, not the person, dude. That's how you avoid getting banned (no one cares, anymore).
Awww. Look at you throwing a strawman fit.
But you see, none of them are omnipotent. This is why you fail.
So you continue to deny onscreen facts, eh?
You can't hide behind Ushgarak, in here. You'll get reported and no one will give a ****.
If the definition of victory is getting brutally KO'd in a boxing match and then waking up in a hospital to loudly proclaim "He(other guy) forfeited! I won! I Won!11! I WON!!!!", then sure, you won, Mr 1+1=1. 😉
So my insult didn't just hit a nerve, it buried itself deep in your anus. Good to know. 👆
Is that whom you think I am a sock of? Didn't RDJ have all his alt accounts banned?
And that's why you come off as a guy afflicted with cerebral palsy. Since you selectively ignore big chunks of my posts, and then reply to them without even understanding the full context of my posts.
Why not both? Especially when the points and dude who makes the points both reek of retardation level 100?
Aww. Look at you failing to even properly troll me. 🙁
Yes, I agree that neither God nor the Q are omnipotent. 🙂 Based on the screenfeats, they are universal-scale reality manipulators at best. Finally, you managed to grasp such a simple point.
Being warned multiple times and getting threatened with a ban means hiding behind his back? Scratch that, you need to recheck the definition of "hiding behind someone's back" along with "strawman" and "no-limits-fallacy".
Originally posted by dadudemon
This post has lots of unsubstantiated bullshit in it so I will re-write it to be less shitty:Fixed the name errors, story errors, and overreaching claims. It now reads with less bias.
After watching Star Trek: The Next Generation a second time (a couple of years ago), I came to the conclusion that the Q are a godlike species with marginal control over the laws of physics, but they are not Omnipotent as Q claimed and have clear limitations.
I noticed you overlooked the onscreen evidence that indicated Q did not have telepathy, Epicurus. Couldja kind of acknowledge that n'stuff?
No, you came to the conclusion that the Q have a better form of omnipotence, as your quote which I posted on the previous page shows. You flip-flopped just because you saw that I too was on the pro-Q team, and memories of rape came flooding back in, causing you to descend to the madness which you've been putting on full public display for the last 2 pages or so of this thread, and will continue to do so for the next dozen or more pages, before backing down like you always do whenever I demolish you.
Originally posted by Robtard
As pointed out over and over, creating everything that exist > what Q has done.
what do you define as "everything that exists" Rob? Do you mean everything we were shown in the BAverse, which would seem more logical, or literally EVERYTHING in the omniverse, which would include our own objective reality as well? Because the latter option is extremely retarded. Please clarify your definition of "all", and please stop posting hyperbole in place of actual visible screenfeats.
As far as I can see, the Morweh supporters have no actual screenfeats showing Morweh is better, and instead resort to posting hyperbolic quotes which they have ridiculous interpretations of, and downplaying the shit out of the Q. Based on logic and screenfeats, the Q obviously win.
Originally posted by marwash22
ummm, there's a book in Star Trek's universe that talks about MorganGod. Is the bible used in Star Trek not the same bible used as a basis for the character in "Bruce/Evan Almighty"?
Can you show me MorganGod from Bruce Almighty creating the Star Trek universe?
Can you show me any evidence that Morgan Freeman playing God exists within the setting?
Can you show me evidence that God as depicted in Bruce Almighty has any canonical bearing on the Star Trek series?
We both know you can't. MorganGod didn't create the Star Trek universe because he doesn't exist within the Star Trek universe. A hypothetical battle between MorganGod and the Q Continuum takes into account their feats and nothing else.
From what I've heard of the Q, in terms of feats MorganGod's creation of the universe far outstrips any of the abilities the Q have shown, so he wins, but he doesn't win because "hurr the Bible exists in Star Trek".
Originally posted by Epicurus
And as pointed out over and over, everything includes the rlverse. Either concede that you mean only the Bruce Almighty movie settings when you say "everything", or else quit with this everything charade.Incorrect based on you not even having the first clue what I am talking about here.
Because your retarded "He made everything! He's > all! Oh, I have a wet God-boner so I refuse to apply any sort of reason or objectivity to my statements!" claims.
Lies have been posted for pages. Along with pathetic lowballing and chimpanzee style mental gymnastics, which would put even quanchi to shame.
When your bullshit is pointed out to you, it's always wise not to respond with more bullshit.
1. The undeniable onscreen fact that Bruce's abilities were constrained and limited in shitty ways as being unable to reveal to anyone that he was God and being incapable controlling the free will of other people is neither a strawman nor a no-limits-fallacy. I suggest you look up the definitions of both terms again.
2. For what? Be clearer.
3. Yes he did. If Morgan Freeman's hyperbole can be trolljectively interpreted to mean that he is the Supreme Being of the Trekverse, then the same standard should be applied to the Q as well. Onscreen feats support the Q, as his feats are better than anything God did. I am not even sure what the hell you're blabbering on about now, with this 'weak-omnipotence' crap. This is what happens when you do the same type of trolljective interpretation of another person's post as the Yahweh-dancers have been doing with virtually every single feat of his in this thread.
4. Why are you quick to develop selective amnesia? In point 1 alone I mentioned the shitty limitations which Bruce faced when he was given his godlike power. I suggest you learn how to read posts if you truly want to become a successful troll as opposed to being a parody of yourself.
5. Okie-dokie, quanlite.If the definition of victory is getting brutally KO'd in a boxing match and then waking up in a hospital to loudly proclaim "He(other guy) forfeited! I won! I Won!11! I WON!!!!", then sure, you won, Mr 1+1=1. 😉
So my insult didn't just hit a nerve, it buried itself deep in your anus. Good to know. 👆
Is that whom you think I am a sock of? Didn't RDJ have all his alt accounts banned?
And that's why you come off as a guy afflicted with cerebral palsy. Since you selectively ignore big chunks of my posts, and then reply to them without even understanding the full context of my posts.
Why not both? Especially when the points and dude who makes the points both reek of retardation level 100?
Aww. Look at you failing to even properly troll me. 🙁
Yes, I agree that neither God nor the Q are omnipotent. 🙂 Based on the screenfeats, they are universal-scale reality manipulators at best. Finally, you managed to grasp such a simple point.
Being warned multiple times and getting threatened with a ban means hiding behind his back? Scratch that, you need to recheck the definition of "hiding behind someone's back" along with "strawman" and "no-limits-fallacy".
So you're angry that you've been systematically destroyed and are now in repeat mode. 🙂 My job here is done.
Seriously, go back through your post and find a single new point you've made. It is literally not there. I read your post twice to be sure. I started to reply with just copying and pasting stuff I (and others) have already posted but it became too tedious. You're too far below me to deserve such attention. Like I said, level up. Move beyond your current style of posting and improve it. If you wish to be able to debate with me, you need to vastly improve. Stop getting hung up in your pettiness and focus on the points. Stop using strawman and red herring arguments. Tone down the insults or at least refocus the insults towards the points and not the person. Also, don't bring up past discussions: that's the first sign of immaturity and that you know you've lost/given up.
A good person would admit fault. A great poster would actually take the advice I have just given.
Originally posted by Epicurus
If it was merely an illusion, why even bother claiming that it was a pocket universe? Do you not realize what an awful "error-fixing" that is? You literally have zero proof that the alternate timeline was either a pocket dimension or an illusion, apart from the butthurt-induced bias and the need to merely continue this shitposting contest with me(which you obviously have no chance of winning).
Actually, no, you're wrong here, too. There is proof it was an illusion: Picard's body and mind were in the real world. It was most likely just an elaborate illusion (brain in a vat).
Do you realize how huge of an uphill battle you have to prove that it wasn't an illusion when you're directly contradicted by what was seen onscreen? The burden of proof is on you to prove it was a universe.
😐
Originally posted by Epicurus
No, you came to the conclusion that the Q have a better form of omnipotence, as your quote which I posted on the previous page shows. You flip-flopped just because you saw that I too was on the pro-Q team,
lol, such narcissism. Sorry, bro, just not the case. If you can go back and read the thread, you had clearly posted and made a few points before I posted the stuff I did. Unrustle those jimmies. What's the matter, did I destroy you so definitively in the past that you have some PTSD so now you fear any conversation with me? 😄 😄 😄 😄