Q Continuum vs God

Started by Lestov1624 pages

He created one universe. That's all he did onscreen. The STverse is bigger than that. And WTF do you mean "The universe where everything started"? OUR OBJECTIVE REALITY is the universe where everything, such as Star Trek, started. Morweh in Bruce Almighty is a fictional being whom we can only judge onscreen feats, not your subjective interpretation of what God really is.

Oh, we're going by the Bible then? Well in that case, again, Yahweh is a fictional being who we can only judge by screenfeats, because obviously, it is nonsensical to judge fictional characters on hyperbole and subjective interpretations.

Originally posted by Epicurus
So you have proof that his creation was a multiverse in the movie?
no. I'm saying, as a matter of fact that his creation was the universe.

Originally posted by Lestov16
He created one universe. That's all he did onscreen.
agreed.

Originally posted by Lestov16
The STverse is bigger than that.
sure, because more realities were created.

Originally posted by Lestov16
And WTF do you mean "The universe where everything started"?
meaning, the multiverse started as one singular reality (universe).

LOL hyperbole and your subjective interpretation is now objective fact. That is one large Bull with a side of Shit.

Originally posted by Lestov16
LOL hyperbole and your [b]subjective interpretation is now objective fact. That is one large Bull with a side of Shit. [/B]
huh?

God, in the movie "Bruce Almighty" is stated to have created the universe. I'm not interpreting anything, that's literally what was stated in the movie.

Originally posted by marwash22

meaning, the multiverse started as one singular reality (universe).

If you're citing the Bible, then the universe in that work of fiction is about as alien to ours as the Game of Thrones universe is, and is certainly not an infinite multiverse like the STverse because it says so right in the Bible that there is only a single objective physical reality, whereas in the Trekverse there are multiple. Therefore, logically the universe in the Bible is not the same as the Trekverse, and neither is the Bruce Almightyverse. If you're going on screenfeats, nothing in the film even remotely suggested it was an infinite multiverse, less lone the center of the possible omniverse. If you mean it is the source of all fiction, you're basically saying that it's our objective reality rather than just another work of fiction, which is absolutely ridiculous.

Please explain to me the logic of your argument that control of the Bruce Almightyverse translate into control of the STverse and every other fictional reality.

Originally posted by Lestov16
He created one universe. That's all he did onscreen. The STverse is bigger than that. And WTF do you mean "The universe where everything started"? OUR OBJECTIVE REALITY is the universe where everything, such as Star Trek, started. Morweh in Bruce Almighty is a fictional being whom we can only judge onscreen feats, not your subjective interpretation of what God really is.

Oh, we're going by the Bible then? Well in that case, again, Yahweh is a fictional being who we can only judge by screenfeats, because obviously, it is nonsensical to judge fictional characters on hyperbole and subjective interpretations.

First you said he created three universes, then you said he created two, now he only created one. Which is it?

We'll go with we'll go with 3 (Heaven, Earth, sheol). How does that compare to the infinite Trek multiverse.

And again, please answer the question about the logic of your argument.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Please explain to me the logic of your argument that control of the Bruce Almightyverse translate into control of the STverse and every other fictional reality.
That's not my argument.

in the movie "bruce Almighty", God created the universe, agree or disagree?

Originally posted by Lestov16
We'll go with we'll go with 3 (Heaven, Earth, sheol). How does that compare to the infinite Trek multiverse.

And again, please answer the question about the logic of your argument.

But Q didn't create the infinite Trek multiverse.

Yes, he did create one physical universe (due to being the only one stated and shown onscreen). Agreed. Go on.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Yes, he did create [b]one physical universe (due to being the only one stated and shown onscreen). Agreed. Go on. [/B]

Ok so then God created 3 and Q created one is all I'm getting at.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Yes, he did create [b]one physical universe (due to being the only one stated and shown onscreen). Agreed. Go on. [/B]
okay, good.

a multiverse is a collection of universes (alternate realities), that came into existence when significant events in time were changed... agree or disagree?

Difference is they aren't limited to one. At no point did they say their one universe (which, they created more than one, but we'll ignore that), which they can create and erase on a whim, is "everything that was, is and will be", which, in Yahweh's case, indicates it's the summation of everything he can create. That's all i'm getting at.

Originally posted by marwash22
no. I'm saying, as a matter of fact that his creation was the universe.

Which means that the Star Trek multiverse is derived from his universe...how exactly?

You know what, while we're at it, you can pretend that this is the Comic Book VS Off-topic thread. At least then you could try to actually troll, instead of accidental trollery which has been your M.O throughout much of this thread.

i already told you i wasn't talking about Star Trek.

lol. why are your so upset?

Originally posted by marwash22
how is having power over the multiverse more impressive than creating the universe that started them all?

Originally posted by marwash22

How are you comfortable acknowledging the fact that God created the universe from nothing, then saying he couldn't also control something that derived from his creation?

That's 2 times in the same goddamn post where you claim that the Star Trek verse is derived from MorGod's Creation. And I am not even going to bother bringing up the ridic biblical nonsense which you've spouting since page 13 of this thread, lol.

no.

i'm saying God created the universe. You can't have a multiverse w/o a universe that started it all.

You said the Q are more powerful because they control the multiverse, and I'm asking you how would God not be able to have complete control over something (the multiverse) that derived from his creation?... his creation being the universe as seen in Bruce Almighty, not the universe as seen in Star Trek.

I understand they are two separate fictional entities, but the mechanics still work the same in both...

1. a universe was created in both.
2. alternate realities (different universes) were created in Star Trek but not in Bruce Almighty.

The Q did not create the universe. God did.

Originally posted by marwash22
how is having power over the multiverse more impressive than creating the universe that started them all?

Again, I'm not talking saying MoragnGod created Star Trek's universe. I'm saying MorganGod created a universe and the Q did not. A multiverse cannot exist if THE universe doesn't exist first.

Originally posted by marwash22
no.

i'm saying


Something which doesn't make even the least bit of sense.

Anyways, MorGod had nothing to do with the STverse. Deal with it.

Originally posted by marwash22
The Q did not create the universe. God did.

You can try to twist this sh1t as much as you want, end of the day it remains pretty much the same thing as saying "Morweh created the Star Trek Universe".

Originally posted by Epicurus
Anyways, MorGod had nothing to do with the STverse.
agreed.
Originally posted by marwash22
in the movie "bruce Almighty", God created the universe, agree or disagree?