Q Continuum vs God

Started by Epicurus24 pages

Originally posted by marwash22
i concede nothing because like i already said, i don't know anything about Q.

answer the question tho:


I guess that going by that definition, Galactus can be called omnipotent. 🙄

Forget Galactus, Disney's Genie is an omnipotent.

Nevermind the fact that Q has performed an identical feat. Or the fact that Bruce was NOT omnipotent, as evidenced by the limitations God placed on his abilities.

Being the creator of a universe is not proof of omnipotence. If I decided to list the number of characters in fiction that can create universes, (and should hence be called omnipotent), I'd go bonkers.

Originally posted by Robtard
Mouth won the thread with that. Screen feats. Good job, mouth 👆

Also you ST tourist, the Q can die.

God > death.


Screenfeats indicate Q's superiority though.

By Q-made weapons.

That's a no-limits-fallacy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect. The Q where once like humanity (humanoids) and evolved into their state. IIRC, Quinn (a Q) tells us this.

Quinn was a heretic who hated his race, so I don't know how much precedence should be given to his words. Regardless, the Q definitely predate the STverse, and have been in their godlike state for such a long time that it may as well count as being forever.

Lol, I said that people were gonna drag the bible into this debate and that is exactly what's happened here.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The Q are omnipotent in comparison to humans, that doesn't mean they're all powerful.

Along with the organians, douwd, the Prophets etc.

Unlike the Almightyverse, the Trekverse has actual superpowered species that possess godlike capabilities themselves. And the Q are supposed to be well beyond even these species.

Originally posted by dadudemon
And this post cuts to the chase. God created the universe by messing with the four fundamental forces. Q can do the same thing so they are equal in "omnipotence".

But here is where Q wins/loses: I believe Q's statement about changing the gravitational constant was ONLY a locally contained statement. Meaning, gravity would only change directly around that giant asteroid/comet rather than the entire universe else Q would inadvertently destroy the entire universe...which I do not think that was the point of his statement.

Depending upon your perspective, that means Q cannot affect things on a universal scale OR Q's powers are the same as God's but can be focused on a very tiny fraction of the universe (meaning, he can be far more precise). So it really does depend on your perspective of how far you think Q's powers can reach. If Q cannot affect things on a truly universal scale (meaning, we cannot commit a "no-limits fallacy"😉, then he is outclassed by God in omnipotence.


Q stated that Amanda Rogers could accidentally end up destroying the entire galaxy if she wasn't taught how to control her abilities. Q Jr admitted that he has unlimited control over space, time and matter. The universe is literally a Q's playground.

God dammit, Epicurus. I was waiting for your assistance all yesterday. Had to debate the thread by my lonesome 🙁

Originally posted by Epicurus
Lol, I said that people were gonna drag the bible into this debate and that is exactly what's happened here.

TBF, it's not like the biblical God can contend with the Q either. Both He and Morweh lose 🙂

Originally posted by Lestov16
Nah. Atheism implies outright complete disbelief in a higher power (or "God"😉, thus why it's name means "without gods".

That's not true. You're using a very specific and niche definition of atheism, good sir! 😄

You may want others who identify as atheist to fit your definition, but that is just not how it works. Almost all atheists (any worth their weight in salt) will admit to and concede in the possibility of a higher power. Ask Digi: he identifies as atheist but admits to a weaker version of Robtard's position.

Originally posted by Lestov16
If Dawkins believes in the existence of a higher power, that qualifies him as an agnostic, not an atheist.

Incorrect on 2 parts:

1. He believes in the possibility, not an actual solid belief. He identifies as atheist but only if pressed will he concede that it is a form of atheistic agnosticism.
2. Let's pretend what you said is true of Dawkins: you're still incorrect. That makes him a theist of some sort. Usually, those types are pantheists.

Originally posted by Lestov16
And unlike Dawkins who believes it's a possibility, I believe a higher metaphysical power is 100% objective fact. We just haven't discovered it's true nature yet because we're being bogged down by these obsolete religions.

You are not agnostic, then. You are a gnostic theist. Congratulations: you share the same space with people like suicide bombers, Moses, Joseph Smith, and David Koresh. 🙂

I gotta head down to Waco then. There's a burning building with my name on it.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Q stated that Amanda Rogers could accidentally end up destroying the entire galaxy if she wasn't taught how to control her abilities. Q Jr admitted that he has unlimited control over space, time and matter. The universe is literally a Q's playground.

So is it settled, then? The Q are not only omnipotent but they have an even better version of omnipotence than God (locally changing the gravitational constant rather than on a universal scale)?

Originally posted by Lestov16
I gotta head down to Waco then. There's a burning building with my name on it.

I hear they have great punch. 😆

Damn....daaamn...that was bad. 🙁

Hey, I joke about mass deaths all the time. Just the other day, I walked into a high school with a trenchcoat and toy AK47. Everybody got a huge laugh 🙂

You people are all going to hell.

Spoiler:
I already called shotgun.

We'll I'm driving with my foot shoved on the gas, so I got no problem with it.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Q stated that Amanda Rogers could accidentally end up destroying the entire galaxy if she wasn't taught how to control her abilities. Q Jr admitted that he has unlimited control over space, time and matter.

The universe is literally a Q's playground.

Bruce almighty showed galaxy destroying powers when he started creating/erasing stars from constellations and he wasn't nearly as powerful as Morgan-God who still had overall control.

Morgan-God literally created the universe.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So is it settled, then? The Q are not only omnipotent but they have an even better version of omnipotence than God (locally changing the gravitational constant rather than on a universal scale)?

nope

Originally posted by Robtard
Bruce almighty showed galaxy destroying powers when he started creating/erasing stars from constellations and he wasn't nearly as powerful as Morgan-God who still had overall control.

Morgan-God literally created the universe.

nope

Q can also literally create universes, but unlike God, they can create more than a mere 3

Yep. Movie might have said different, but trust me, God Is Dead 🙂

Lots of people are going to hell.

We are already in Hell. Do you think creepazoids like Quan could actually exist on Earth?

Yes