Q Continuum vs God

So basically your interpretation and not what was ACTUALLY said.
Again, stop thinking figuratively.

It showed us a similar feat of them altering gravity and electromagnetism to walk on water, so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume they could eat vanilla ice cream while sitting on a pine cone. We didn't see any feats of them going beyond Bruce's single universe and heaven, so we have no reason to believe God has control over anything but those 2 universes. What you are assuming is a no-limits fallacy based only on your interpretation.

Circles and circles, dude. What Morgan-God said was posted; it was explained what the "I am the one..." inferred. You asked for Bible verse as proof/support; that was given too.

Seems you just want to argue for arguments sake and you've already disgusted me.

Exactly. Assumptions, and interpretations is all you have to support your argument because the actual objective feats show that Morgan is inferior to Q. Get the bible out of your ass, man.

Circles, exactly:

Originally posted by Robtard
Your argument is still: "Morgan-god didn't specifically claim he was omnipotent so he's not."

Morgan-God did though, he just said it differently.

Now if you excuse me, I'm going to have Mormon smores with DDM and then partake in the ass-orgy.

And you're basically applying a no-limits fallacy based on your interpretation instead of what was actual said or shown. Yes we are going in circles but I don't mind. This is one of the first good debates I've had in a while. I'm having fun disproving the Abrahamic God's (and by extension Bruce Almighty's) supposed omnipotence 🙂

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Save me some smores, but please make them BEFORE the orgy. I don't want to think I'm biting into marshmallow and end up eating something else....

Originally posted by Robtard
Bruce's powers were limited (in comparison) and he lacked the knowledge and foresight in using them(the lesson in the film). Morgan-God also easily did away with all of Bruce's ****ups.

Yes, his powers were limited by God to just...was it New Jersey?

But Bruce bent the rules with shit like pulling the moon closer.

Originally posted by Lestov16
And you're basically applying a no-limits fallacy..

LOL!

I think that....when it comes to God (or Q)...the no-limits fallacy does not apply and cannot ever apply out of a necessity of their definitional qualities. 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Lestov16
Completely rid yourself of the evil of religion, Rob. It infects and confuses those who do not fight it with enough strength.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
this was uncalled for

I agree. Robtard is atheist on most days and agnostic when really philosophically pressed on the issues so it was really not appropriate to say that to him.

I'm neither an atheist or agnostic (I guess technically agnostic, but I don't consider myself that). I completely believe in the existence of a higher power. But it's none of these bozo mythologies we've come up with so far. The only way to find the truth is to pursue science (because in order to see what is beyond we must first know where we are) and these obsolete religions are what is stopping humanity from reaching it's intellectual potential, not to mention fueling a lot of unnecessary conflict and death. So yeah it is kind of evil.

Institutionalized religion isn't the font of that sort of shit anyway

I have a gay brother who believes in that Christian bullshit despite the blatant horrific homophobia contained in the Bible. These obsolete religions (not the possibility of a higher power, but the obsolete religions we have hitherto fabricated) is really holding humanity back.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree. Robtard is atheist on most days and agnostic when really philosophically pressed on the issues so it was really not appropriate to say that to him.

I'm not an atheist, I just don't buy any of the mainstream religions views of God.

I'm more confident that there is a higher power than everything being a random set of events; I also have no idea exactly what that power is; it may not even be conscious as how we know it. So I'm closer to an Agnostic, if we have to use labels.

We've had this convo before, a few times, over the last 8-9 years.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm not an atheist, I just don't buy any of the mainstream religions views of God.

I'm more confident that there is a higher power than everything being a random set of events; I also have no idea exactly what that power is; it may not even be conscious as how we know it. So I'm closer to an Agnostic, if we have to use labels.

We've had this convo before, a few times, over the last 8-9 years.

Uh-huh. And everything you stated is exactly why I stated what I did.

You're functionally an atheist and only if pressed do you bring out some agnostic leanings.

Edit - You're a "Weak Pantheist", really.

Nah.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I have a gay brother who believes in that Christian bullshit despite the blatant horrific homophobia contained in the Bible. These obsolete religions (not the possibility of a higher power, but the obsolete religions we have hitherto fabricated) is really holding humanity back.

Me personally I couldn't give a **** about institutionalised religion, cos Roman catholic primary school (elementary?) ****ed me over for dealing with high school and all the ****ed up shit I keep on hearing about the priests.

But that doesn't give me free reign to shit over another persons belief (even if that person isn't that strong in religion)

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
so what people can choose to believe what they want

Me personally I couldn't give a **** about institutionalised religion, cos Roman catholic primary school (elementary?) ****ed me over for dealing with high school and all the ****ed up shit I keep on hearing about the priests.

But that doesn't give me free reign to shit over another persons belief (even if that person isn't that strong in religion)

Dude, just shut up and go away, no one was even talking to you and your constantly spouting off utter nonsense, you can't spell or debate, think with a brain or do anything worth that amounts to a pile of garbage. You really should be banned as Kaz said.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Uh-huh. And everything you stated is exactly why I stated what I did.

You're functionally an atheist and only if pressed do you bring out some agnostic leanings.

Edit - You're a "Weak Pantheist", really.

Not really. He described himself similar to how I described myself. He believes in a higher power, just none of the current religions. He is clearly thus not an atheist. Maybe, that qualifies as agnostic, but that's arguable. He's not a pantheist because he admittedly doesn't know if "God" is either a sentient being or a metaphysical system, either one of which could possibly be applicable.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
so what people can choose to believe what they want

Freedom of opinion doesn't mean "Freedom to be ignorant of scientifically-discovered empirical objective facts of physical reality in favor of an obsolete geocentric theory." To believe so would be to wallow in ignorance and be the most horrifying form of self-delusion.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Not really. He described himself similar to how I described myself. He believes in a higher power, just none of the current religions. He is clearly thus not an atheist. [b]Maybe, that qualifies as agnostic, but that's arguable. He's not a pantheist because he admittedly doesn't know if "God" is either a sentient being or a metaphysical system, either one of which could possibly be applicable.[/B]

No, what I said. Just refer to my posts for my replies. 🙂

You're an atheist, broooooo. You're in the same category as Richard Dawkins who also admits in the possibility of a higher power.

Nah. Atheism implies outright complete disbelief in a higher power (or "God"😉, thus why it's name means "without gods".

If Dawkins believes in the existence of a higher power, that qualifies him as an agnostic, not an atheist. And unlike Dawkins who believes it's a possibility, I believe a higher metaphysical power is 100% objective fact. We just haven't discovered it's true nature yet because we're being bogged down by these obsolete religions.