Proxima Midnight Vs Supergirl

DarkSaint you do realize that in Infinity #6 Cap didn't "react" to Prixima's spear throw correct? It was completely anticipated because you know she kind of gave Cap and Carol a speech about how she was going to kill them and got in position to throw her spear. It was apparent to cap that she would attack so he defended accordingly. Also if proxima's spear is able to catch Monica my theory is that her spear has special properties, so after the initial throw it takes time for the spear to gain velocity and become incredibly fast. Which explains the incident with the wakandan soldier.

And Kara can fight Flash at superspeed.

That's about as fast as anyone can be.

And her durability is top notch too. Tanking missiles fueled with core of neutron stars.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
And Kara can fight Flash at superspeed.

That's about as fast as anyone can be.

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Originally posted by dial J for Josh
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Originally posted by carver9
Look like his shield was up before the attack was launched.

Wait...so the spear is unable to change direction? What difference does having your shield up make?

Very different to what I saw with Spectrum....it was zipping all around like the Omega Blasts from Darkseid.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
DarkSaint you do realize that in Infinity #6 Cap didn't "react" to Prixima's spear throw correct? It was completely anticipated because you know she kind of gave Cap and Carol a speech about how she was going to kill them and got in position to throw her spear. It was apparent to cap that she would attack so he defended accordingly. Also if proxima's spear is able to catch Monica my theory is that her spear has special properties, so after the initial throw it takes time for the spear to gain velocity and become incredibly fast. Which explains the incident with the wakandan soldier.

So...there is a sweet spot where if you're close enough, the spear is still pretty slow (as in it takes time to accelerate)?

Yeah, SG still wins this.

Originally posted by Stoic
It's the same thing that happened with Batman and the Spectre.

You missed the context between Batman and the Spectre, which you really should have looked into rather than just grasped at straws.

Bats only did what he did...because the Spectre allowed it. Are you seriously suggesting Proxima ALLOWED her spear to slow down????

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait...so the spear is unable to change direction? What difference does having your shield up make?

Very different to what I saw with Spectrum....it was zipping all around like the Omega Blasts from Darkseid.

What are you talking about? They were a couple of ft away. She threw the spear...it hit Cap shield (that was already up) and it did exactly what you said and changed direction. Don't get your point with the Cap scene. You're even wrong about the soldier scene that jumped in the way of the spear throw. He jumped in front of the attack before she launched it.

Stop being so picky my friend. How about this. Supergirl still gets tagged since someone as slow as Lobo was able to hit her with ease and Lobo isn't as near as fast as the spear. She has also been tagged by misses as well. Proxima stomps.

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Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about? They were a couple of ft away. She threw the spear...it hit Cap shield (that was already up) and it did exactly what you said and changed direction. Don't get your point with the Cap scene. You're even wrong about the soldier scene that jumped in the way of the spear throw. He jumped in front of the attack before she launched it.

Stop being so picky my friend. How about this. Supergirl still gets tagged since someone as slow as Lobo was able to hit her with ease and Lobo isn't as near as fast as the spear. She has also been tagged by misses as well. Proxima stomps.

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My point is that she threw the spear, and Cap was able to react to it.

They are shown BEHIND Shuri, who had earlier pierced PM easily with a simple spear toss. How do you get the idea that he jumped in front before she launched it???

Great job bringing up some of the times SG's been tagged. Shall we tally up and use the averages? I can assure you, based on PM's THREE main appearances, that SG will come out on top.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My point is that she threw the spear, and Cap was able to react to it.

They are shown BEHIND Shuri, who had earlier pierced PM easily with a simple spear toss. How do you get the idea that he jumped in front before she launched it???

Great job bringing up some of the times SG's been tagged. Shall we tally up and use the averages? I can assure you, based on PM's THREE main appearances, that SG will come out on top.

How did he react to it when he got hit? His shield was already up before she threw the attack.

Couldn't remember the scene with the soldier but good post. Looked like she tossed it instead of throwing it though. You honestly don't believe she toss her weapon at the same speeds do you?

You honestly don't think her tossing/launching speed has ANYTHING to do with it, do you, when it's changing direction in 3 dimensions and chasing people????

Are you now saying that when she threw a spear at Spectrum, she was effectively throwing it at lightspeed?? And that her strength/speed of launch enabled the spear to zig zag in the air, chasing Spectrum???

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You honestly don't think her tossing/launching speed has ANYTHING to do with it, do you, when it's changing direction in 3 dimensions and chasing people????

Are you now saying that when she threw a spear at Spectrum, she was effectively throwing it at lightspeed?? And that her strength/speed of launch enabled the spear to zig zag in the air, chasing Spectrum???

Not what I am saying. I'm just asking a question. The soldier scene is just unclear to me. What I do know is...Cap shield was already up when she launched the attack and then he was hit which means he didn't counter it. Then it changed directions as well (but hit a team mate). Then she used it against Hulk who was stated during that scene as moving at super speed and he was hit as well. Then she used it against Spectrum and it moved at super speed as well.

So your argument isn't concrete.

Not that unclear.

She threw it, and a trained human soldier was able to see it, shout out 'Protect the princess' twice, and throw his entire body in front of it.

As for the Cap scans, thanks. You can clearly see Cap's back is to PM, when she throws a sucker shot AT HIS BACK. His front is to Carol, and his shield side is facing Hyperion and Corvus.

So he still managed to react, and spin 90 degrees to block the attack and protect Carol.

Originally posted by carver9
How did he react to it when he got hit? His shield was already up before she threw the attack.

Couldn't remember the scene with the soldier but good post. Looked like she tossed it instead of throwing it though. You honestly don't believe she toss her weapon at the same speeds do you?

I said that in my last post about cap not reacting to it which is apparent but darksaint isn't grasping this.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You honestly don't think her tossing/launching speed has ANYTHING to do with it, do you, when it's changing direction in 3 dimensions and chasing people????

Are you now saying that when she threw a spear at Spectrum, she was effectively throwing it at lightspeed?? And that her strength/speed of launch enabled the spear to zig zag in the air, chasing Spectrum???

Again I'm being ignored. Proxima's spear was a gift bestowed upon her by Thanos himself! Thanos being a individual who has nothing but the highest standards in terms of quality when it comes to weaponry and tech. Knowing this, it is apparent that Proximas spear has special properties. Not by that concept alone but simply due to her on panel showings with her spear. She can toss it at any direction and it will follow whomever she desires it to due to its homing capacity. Depending on how fast the individual is running away from it, the spear will adjust accordingly.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
I said that in my last post about cap not reacting to it which is apparent but darksaint isn't grasping this.

Again I'm being ignored. Proxima's spear was a gift bestowed upon her by Thanos himself! Thanos being a individual who has nothing but the highest standards in terms of quality when it comes to weaponry and tech. Knowing this, it is apparent that Proximas spear has special properties. Not by that concept alone but simply due to her on panel showings with her spear. She can toss it at any direction and it will follow whomever she desires it to due to its homing capacity. Depending on how fast the individual is running away from it, the spear will adjust accordingly.

She threw it at Cap's back. He spins, and deflects two of the shafts on his shield. That's reacting to it.

Lol @ Thanos' standards: see this link.

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Corvus Glaive: As long as his otherworldly blade remains whole, he cannot die. Tell that to Hyperion.

Black Dwarf - beaten by a highly trained human warrior.

Proxima Midnight: Her spear, when thrown, is lethal to most creatures. Who did it kill? A human Wakandan. Hulk took it, Spectrum took it, Cap took some of it, Corvus took some of it. Guess Earth is just that uber.
Proof of this ability of the spear to adjust accordingly???

Originally posted by carver9
This is all we see.

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And before this...Cap already had his shield at his side.

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Here you go, in case you were ignoring carver. He has put them out of order, so click the second link first. You can see PM standing behind Cap, who's bent down helping Carol up.

Sure, you can argue that during her monologue, she was close enough for Cap to hear her, and adjust his stance accordingly, in readiness for the spear. Which then begs the question (which you have ignored): why didn't the spear just go around the shield? We know it can change direction, yet, your assertion is that as PM is monologuing, Cap is turning around and getting ready for the spear, PM CAN SEE HIM TURNING AROUND AND GETTING READY.....and yet, just throws the spear directly at him.

Uhuh.

Originally posted by Stoic
Monica is faster than Supergirl, but she was easily chased down by Proxima's spear, and nearly killed. Based on how the spear works Supergirl had better not be hit by it, because it would probably kill her faster than it was killing Monica.. No one really knows just how strong Proxima is, but I wouldn't place her below the Class 100 mark.

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Weak durabity though, if a common spear could pierce her shoulder.

Granted, it didn't bother her, but it implies she'd be vulnerable to losing limbs, if not an outright decapitation.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not that unclear.

She threw it, and a trained human soldier was able to see it, shout out 'Protect the princess' twice, and throw his entire body in front of it.

As for the Cap scans, thanks. You can clearly see Cap's back is to PM, when she throws a sucker shot AT HIS BACK. His front is to Carol, and his shield side is facing Hyperion and Corvus.

So he still managed to react, and spin 90 degrees to block the attack and protect Carol.

His back was to her BEFORE she threw the spear. We see Cap picking Cap Marvel up. Then we see Proxima jumping up in the air, talking and throwing her spear. What was Cap doing during all of this? During the time she jumped up in the air...talked, THEN throwing her spear.

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I know how we can find that answer out. In the scan I posted, Captain Marvel is laid out on the ground, barely able to move while Cap is turned around helping her out. In this scan Captain Marvel is on her ft just like Cap. She isn't close to being as weary as she was during the time Cap picked her up. Time passed my friend.

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How much time...it's unclear but what we do know is A). Cap had his shield in his hands before the attack. B). Proxima jumped up in the air and said complete sentences before throwing the shield (which would give Cap time to turn around and face his opponent). C). A damaged Carol and Captain America was turned around at Proxima direction looking at her. All of this is shown here.