Originally posted by Kotor3Whether it is in an instant or not it is inevitable so the victor is Manhattan. Quit saying silly things that don't change the outcome.
I never said resist. You said instantly like others. I gave my argument why it wouldn't be instant. If you don't agree then fine.You have yet to prove anything.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Whether it is in an instant or not it is inevitable so the victor is Manhattan. Quit saying silly things that don't change the outcome.
Dude don't jump in an conversation without reading the comments. All your comment shows it that you have no idea what point I am making or what the argument even is.
Originally posted by Kotor3You are saying the durability matters so prove it. As it stands these characters have shown no resistance to said tactic.
Dude don't jump in an conversation without reading the comments. All your comment shows it that you have no idea what point I am making or what the argument even is.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
This is a all versus battle with none of the opponents able to hurt DM. From Manhattan character, he will most likely sit back and watch them all kill themselves. DM will ultimately be the last man standing as he cannot be killed.
Originally posted by quanchi112Epicurus quit avoiding this. Let's battlezone since you seem so dead set on doing so. Or are you scared ? I think you definitely are since you're avoiding this post.
Epicurus, why won't you accept the Khan/Vader challenge ? Let's see what your made of. Most believe Vader stomps so unless you disagree and say Khan wins the only thing holding you back is fear.
^^If that post addresses me, then don't bother because I have you on ignore.
Originally posted by dadudemon
What makes you think that attack kills energy beings when no energy beings were killed by those attacks?Hint: Galactus was not an energy being. He was corporeal and tangible...comprised of matter.
Originally posted by EpicurusI have broken you. Just like Abhilegend. I accept your unconditional surrender.
^^If that post addresses me, then don't bother because I have you on ignore.Wrong. His externals were. Not the being inside itself.
I am profiling your post to savor this victory for all time.
Originally posted by Epicurus
You're trying way too hard to emulate quanchi, and failing spectacularly at it.Before Watchmen(along with the original Watchmen) is also non-canon to the movie.
No you did nothing of the sort. Manhattan never vaporized anything in the movie. He blew shit up in a blue flash of light. There's a difference.
And those explosions were a glorified form of "blowing shit up". Blue nuke blasts, basically speaking. Which aren't putting down the 2014 version of Godzilla, let alone people like the Silver Surfer and Reeves Superman.
All of this is useless circular drivel. When my reply is simply, "No, that's wrong, it works and he vaporizes stuff", then you can tell that you have no content in your post.
Originally posted by Epicurus
That makes you a fail-liar in addition to being a fail troll. You just admitted that you couldn't bz Manhattan because he's a, and I am paraphrasing here, "virtually featless character" with only "implied ability".You're a shitty troll in addition to being a shitty debater.
Why don't you quote the whole thing instead of trolling?
Originally posted by dadudemon
😆Compared to what he can do vs. what he showed onscreen...why would I take a virtually featless character into a battlzone?
Also, I'm not 13. Battlezones or for children, imo.
Hint: there is quite a bit of difference in what I said and what you said. You'll have to to better than a strawman to debate with me.
Sir, I do believe I destroyed you, yet again. I am better at your own game than you are. You must get angry and frustrated when you try to troll when I'm around. I constantly turn everything you do on its head and make you dance like a fool.
Originally posted by Epicurus
^^If that post addresses me, then don't bother because I have you on ignore.Wrong. His externals were. Not the being inside itself.
Wrong: He was a being comprised of matter.
Originally posted by Epicurus
He was weakened as a result of being separated from the board, not via the tachyons directly themselves.No he doesn't. Manhattan's so-called atomization isn't even atomization at all. Atomization doesn't leave skeletal and blood remains when performed on a human body. As the movie itself notes, when Osterman's body was completely destroyed to the point that literally nothing was left to bury after the accident. Dr Manhattan's "atomization" however still leaves behind bodily remains.
What the Silver Surfer did to Dr Doom is called atomization, and atomic-scale reconstruction. What the Intrinsic Field Subtractor does is atomization. What Dr Manhattan is shown doing to a tank and a bunch of humans however is called "blowing shit up". Look it up in the dictionary.
Either way he was weakened and lost his power because of them. doc would laugh at such an attempt to depower him
True Manhattan only disintegrated people on a cellular level, but how does that stop him from turning the opponents into Campbell's cans? He's clearly capable of and at many points has been shown manipulating matter on a subatomic level, so the fact that he doesn't bother doing so all the time because of CIS can't be used against him. It's the ol' "If we never saw Batman used the bathroom onscreen it means he can't" argument.
Originally posted by Epicurus
What makes you think he can survive an attack that kills energy beings?
Good point
The survival of manhattan depends solely on the survival or existence of the universe. He can exist with or without a body. So if his body is destroyed and wants to be without one, he can be. If he choses to piece himself together he can. The attack that destroyed his body the first time turned him into what he was. The attack the second time tore apart what he was thus removing his intrinsic field, in hopes that it would kill him, however he exists everywhere and cannot be destroyed just by killing his avatar of a body. He has no known weakness or none that anyone in this forum could reproduce from what we have seen.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am not wrong. If you can't show resistance to said attack you have nothing. That is how debating works, chum.
This is the point I have been making.
His ability is not like a grenade. It is, for all intents and purposes, magic. Unless they have shown specific resistance to that kind of magic, they will not have immunity to it. The only one that can come close is Norinn Radd but he's a mortal being that can be killed like any other (regular humans almost did that, in the film...humans). Let me put it a different way: it would be like me claiming that Dr. Manhattan can pick up Thor's hammer. Dr. Manhattan cannot magically gain an override for the magic enchantment on the hammer. That's stupid. The same with Silver Surfer: he cannot gain a magical resistance to Dr. Manhattan's vaping ability.
Even if everyone makes a case for Norinn Radd being able to affect Manhattan's body (unlikely), Manhattan can just reform an infinite number of times. He can even duplicate himself over and over and over.
So let's explore this for a bit: pretend Silver Surfer can resist Dr. Manhattan's vaping ability. So then Dr. Manhattan just duplicates himself until he has the sufficient power to over come Silver Surfer's resistance. Arguing against this particular point is stupid. Why? If you think that Silver Surfer can resist Dr. Manhattan's ability no matter how many Dr. Manhattan's are exerting it against him, you commit the no-limits fallacy. Since Dr. Manhattan seems to be able to duplicate himself, instantly, when needed, and he can see the future, he will know exactly how many to make of himself as soon as the fight starts...this is assuming, of course, that Silver Surfer has a resistance to Dr. Manhattan's ability which I do not believe is true.