Manhattan vs Reeve’s Superman vs Thor vs Silver Surfer · Movie Versus Forum

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Bardock42
Manhattan would kill them all instantly if that's what was going to happen...

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Bardock42 Junior Member

Originally posted by Epicurus
Based on what? Manhattan's spectacular lack of feats dealing with a being that has a similar level of matter manipulation capability? Or his ability to induce homoerotic periods in his fanboys?

Both of those and many more!

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by Lestov16
Do you have any solid evidence that Thor, Supes, and Surfer have different quantum fields than normal matter?

No I don't have solid evidence. I would have to ask the creators of the characters. But I can make assumptions like you and others.

My statements are that I see no real proof that their instrinic fields, quantum fields, whatever you want to called them will be vaporized immediately.

Since I am not the most educated on Dr. Manhattan, tell me can he create a rift in space and time and go through it and survive?

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by Bardock42
Both of those and many more!

What do you mean by many more? My interest is piqued.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by Kotor3
Since I am not the most educated on Dr. Manhattan, tell me can he create a rift in space and time and go through it and survive?

In theory he could, but it was never portrayed onscreen.

The Before Watchmen Comics do explain however that his teleportation is based on Star Trek lite spacewarps.

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by Epicurus
Forget that, the durability of said structure was so godawful that a peak human female was able to completely shatter it with a single punch.😆
Manhattan's powerset is being way overwanked by a single poster on this thread.😬

Yeah, I am getting tired of hearing, the Manhattan can vaporize his opponents argument with no examples.

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by Epicurus
In theory he could, but it was never portrayed onscreen.
The Before Watchmen Comics do explain however that his teleportation is based on Star Trek lite spacewarps.

That is the thing. It seems that Manhattan supporters on not going off of moive feats but comics and implying power to him.

That is not being done for the other characters.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Kotor3
Yeah, I am getting tired of hearing, the Manhattan can vaporize his opponents argument with no examples.

So you are essentially saying he's never done so.

😂

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you are essentially saying he's never done so.
😂

To anything remotely as powerful as his opponents, NO!

I do not remember anything on screen showing that.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by Kotor3
That is the thing. It seems that Manhattan supporters on not going off of moive feats but comics and implying power to him.
That is not being done for the other characters.

The comics aren't even canon to movie as they follow a radically different storyline wherein Ozymandias uses a convoluted alien invasion threat to force America and the Soviet Union to unite.

In the movie he used Manhattan himself to accomplish the same feat.

Different.

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by Epicurus
Because that is how VS thread are debated, mon ami. Implied power is meaningless if there are no feats to back it up.

Glad you conceded the point, then. 🙂

See, it's not so hard to concede.

Originally posted by Epicurus
In theory he could, but it was never portrayed onscreen.

Wow. This is an even better concession on your part. I can't ask for much more from you, really.

Originally posted by Epicurus
The Before Watchmen Comics do explain however that his teleportation is based on Star Trek lite spacewarps.

Tis a shame that wasn't seen onscreen. 😐

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you are essentially saying he's never done so.
😂

Yes, I pointed that out, already, too. He's choosing to ignore it.

Originally posted by Epicurus
In the movie he used Manhattan himself to accomplish the same feat.
Different.

No, he duplicated Manhattan's power in the movie: Manhattan didn't blow shit up.

Bardock42 Junior Member

Originally posted by Epicurus
What do you mean by many more? My interest is piqued.

I think you misunderstood my post here....

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by dadudemon
Glad you conceded the point, then. 🙂
See, it's not so hard to concede.

I conceded to a point I made and you so ardently denied for the last 3 pages of this thread?

What kind of Bizarro-world do you live in?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Kotor3
To anything remotely as powerful as his opponents, NO!
I do not remember anything on screen showing that.

It is up to you to prove durability can resist the attack then. That is how debating works.

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by Epicurus
I conceded to a point I made and you so ardently denied for the last 3 pages of this thread?
What kind of Bizarro-world do you live in?

Sorry, you never made that point but I did. I called you...

ohh ho ho ho.

I almost fell for it. Nice try with the trolling comment.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by dadudemon
Glad you conceded the point, then. 🙂
See, it's not so hard to concede.
Wow. This is an even better concession on your part. I can't ask for much more from you, really.
Tis a shame that wasn't seen onscreen. 😐
Yes, I pointed that out, already, too. He's choosing to ignore it.
No, he duplicated Manhattan's power in the movie: Manhattan didn't blow shit up.

Sadly, most posters use self serving logic and switch tactics from thread to thread. Thank the stars the board has us to pump noble blood throughout its arteries.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wow. This is an even better concession on your part. I can't ask for much more from you, really.

You're trying way too hard to emulate quanchi, and failing spectacularly at it.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Tis a shame that wasn't seen onscreen. 😐

Before Watchmen(along with the original Watchmen) is also non-canon to the movie.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Yes, I pointed that out, already, too. He's choosing to ignore it.

No you did nothing of the sort. Manhattan never vaporized anything in the movie. He blew shit up in a blue flash of light. There's a difference.

Originally posted by dadudemon

No, he duplicated Manhattan's power in the movie: Manhattan didn't blow shit up.

And those explosions were a glorified form of "blowing shit up". Blue nuke blasts, basically speaking. Which aren't putting down the 2014 version of Godzilla, let alone people like the Silver Surfer and Reeves Superman.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sorry, you never made that point but I did. I called you...
ohh ho ho ho.
I almost fell for it. Nice try with the trolling comment.

That makes you a fail-liar in addition to being a fail troll. You just admitted that you couldn't bz Manhattan because he's a, and I am paraphrasing here, "virtually featless character" with only "implied ability".

You're a shitty troll in addition to being a shitty debater.

quanchi112 Disney

Epicurus, why won't you accept the Khan/Vader challenge ? Let's see what your made of. Most believe Vader stomps so unless you disagree and say Khan wins the only thing holding you back is fear.

Kotor3 Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is up to you to prove durability can resist the attack then. That is how debating works.

I never said resist. You said instantly like others. I gave my argument why it wouldn't be instant. If you don't agree then fine.