Originally posted by yungz22
The metal benders bend all the time without touchijng the ground abd toph foumded both the style and police force
This is ATLAB we're talking about, not Legend of Korra. If it were, Katara could just blood-bend her and kill her instantly in the first place.
Either way, if Toph could bend without touching her element, why was she crying from fear of falling off an air ship above a huge rock plain?
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
This is ATLAB we're talking about, not Legend of Korra. If it were, Katara could just blood-bend her and kill her instantly in the first place.Either way, if Toph could bend without touching her element, why was she crying from fear of falling off an air ship above a huge rock plain?
Smfh bloodbending is outlawed by the thread maker.
An airship is far higher than katara can lift toph in the air. Anyone would die from a fall in that situation like that unless you were a fire bender or airbender.
It doesnt matter which series it is the point is they bended while in the air. Toph is the first metal bender and one of the top 2 earthbenders in the world of course she can do the same.
Originally posted by yungz22
Smfh bloodbending is outlawed by the thread maker.An airship is far higher than katara can lift toph in the air. Anyone would die from a fall in that situation like that unless you were a fire bender or airbender.
It doesnt matter which series it is the point is they bended while in the air. Toph is the first metal bender and one of the top 2 earthbenders in the world of course she can do the same.
Exactly, dummy, that's why I pointed it out in the first place. Learn to read.
Uh, then why did Aang use water bending to survive a similar fall in the same episode? Or why could Toph not use earth bending to escape the wooden cage in the second to last combustion man episode, when there was obviously Earth all around them? BECAUSE SHE CAN'T BEND EARTH WITHOUT TOUCHING IT. Duh. When has she EVER bent without touching Earth?
So show me ONE example of her doing so. It doesn't matter that she can bend metal, she STILL can't bend Earth without touching it, another perfect example BEING that she can't bend metal without touching it either. I've given three examples PROVING her to be unable to bend without touching Earth. This means SHE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T.
Originally posted by SamZED
Wut? Toph can bend earth/rock without directly touching it. How is this even being debated?
"if Toph could bend without touching her element, why was she crying from fear of falling off an air ship above a huge rock plain?"
"Or why could Toph not use earth bending to escape the wooden cage in the second to last combustion man episode, when there was obviously Earth all around them? BECAUSE SHE CAN'T BEND EARTH WITHOUT TOUCHING IT. Duh. When has she EVER bent without touching Earth?"
It seems like it's not a debate. Just the simple fact that she can't bend without touching Earth or the ground.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
"if Toph could bend without touching her element, why was she crying from fear of falling off an air ship above a huge rock plain?""Or why could Toph not use earth bending to escape the wooden cage in the second to last combustion man episode, when there was obviously Earth all around them? BECAUSE SHE CAN'T BEND EARTH WITHOUT TOUCHING IT. Duh. When has she EVER bent without touching Earth?"
It seems like it's not a debate. Just the simple fact that she can't bend without touching Earth or the ground.
The metal benders bend all the time without touching the ground.
Originally posted by yungz22
The metal benders bend all the time without touching the ground.
Did you not see the thread title? Or are you just legitimately retarded?
This is ATLA, not LOK. And if you wanna talk about Korra, then Katara wins cuz Toph's dead.
Either way, Toph can't bend without touching Earth, and she doesn't get other benders feats.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Did you not see the thread title? Or are you just legitimately retarded?This is ATLA, not LOK. And if you wanna talk about Korra, then Katara wins cuz Toph's dead.
Either way, Toph can't bend without touching Earth, and she doesn't get other benders feats.
The series doenst matter its still metalbending which is a form of earth bending.
Unless you trying to say that the metal police arent metalbending
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Exactly WTF does Toph bending with or without touching the ground have to do with this fight?Toph, in addition to her other feats, tied with the best person in her respective element: Katara didn't. Pretty sure that speaks for itself.
Hes tryna say katara would trap toph in a bubble and since shes not touching the earth she wouldnt be able to pull any towards her to break free from the bubble
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
"if Toph could bend without touching her element, why was she crying from fear of falling off an air ship above a huge rock plain?""Or why could Toph not use earth bending to escape the wooden cage in the second to last combustion man episode, when there was obviously Earth all around them? BECAUSE SHE CAN'T BEND EARTH WITHOUT TOUCHING IT. Duh. When has she EVER bent without touching Earth?"
It seems like it's not a debate. Just the simple fact that she can't bend without touching Earth or the ground.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Exactly WTF does Toph bending with or without touching the ground have to do with this fight?Toph, in addition to her other feats, tied with the best person in her respective element: Katara didn't. Pretty sure that speaks for itself.
The fact that Katara has DIRECT advantages that make her able to beat Toph simply because of her element and the fact that Toph is blind.
What does that have to do with anything? Boomy would have been able to bend some rocks up to catch him, and been fine if he was falling from the airship. Toph couldn't, because she can't bend without being or coming into contact with Earth.
Originally posted by SamZED
It really isn't a debate.
Changing the shape of a small meteor without directly touching it:
9:06
http://youtu.be/b8d1hjg8_fs
Then she's done that to cheat at that "three cups" game and win some easy money.
1:50
http://youtu.be/zxzeNS2zLg8
Thats's two examples of her bending earth/rock without directly touching it off the top off my head and keep in mind I haven't watched the show in ages. I'm sure I could find more but don't really care enough. Besides it's enough evidence as it is.
I know. It's not a debate.
Are you saying she didn't touch the meteor before bending it?
Yeah, and bending a marble the size of a baby's finger nail about an inch is really useful. I never said she could lift rocks into the air and throw them with bending, but she obviously can't bend when she isn't able to feel something, because she's BLIND. And she couldn't feel Earth from the air. She apparently couldn't feel it in a wooden box. She couldn't feel it in water. She could FEEL the pebble, as stated by her.
In other words, all Katara, or ANY powerful water bender for that matter, has to do is remove her ability to feel Earth, by trapping her in a sphere of water.
Enough evidence? Pfft, I hope you're talking about my argument here, because my four examples outweighs your... well, none.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The fact that Katara has DIRECT advantages that make her able to beat Toph simply because of her element and the fact that Toph is blind.What does that have to do with anything? Boomy would have been able to bend some rocks up to catch him, and been fine if he was falling from the airship. Toph couldn't, because she can't bend without being or coming into contact with Earth.
Bumi=Toph in contrast to Pakku>Katara that's what it means.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
That would imply that Toph is just going to stand there and let her do it. Also the only person to successfully use Toph's blindness as an advantage in a fightis Aang.Bumi=Toph in contrast to Pakku>Katara that's what it means.
Which she basically is. You're forgetting that Azula was trumped by Katara, yet even without bending was faster and could effortlessly evade and outrun Toph and her bending. Well yeah, mainly because Katara hasn't fought Toph.
And Pakku>Toph, is also what it means. The only difference is that Bumi can bend whenever he wants, and is much faster than Toph, however he can't use his bending to the advantage that Katara and Pakku could. Not to mention she could simply keep herself in the air with water, and Toph couldn't see her, as well as coat the ground with ice and blind her, or, as I said earlier, trap her in water while doing this.
All this fight depends on is if Toph goes for the kill the instant the fight starts, and sinks her into the ground. Either way though, Katara has a few ways to manage getting out of that and winning even then. Her sight, speed, and bending advantages are massively to big here.
And that's only because of the conditions of the OP. If she had water with her, or could blood bend, Toph would get shit-stomped. It all depends on if Toph can kill her before she can get the water to her, which is EXTREMELY unlikely, because 1. Toph wouldn't just kill her like that, unless she's fully blood-lusted, and 2. Katara's water is MUCH faster than Toph's Earth.
Regardless of touching the meteor, the fact is she was able to manipulate its shape into complex forms without touching it. That and the pebble shows she's still able to interact with rocks without direct or indirect contact. The size means nothing besides the fact that she can, which I believe was the main point
Going off memory there's also her bending the drill waste with Katara if that helps.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Regardless of touching the meteor, the fact is she was able to manipulate its shape into complex forms without touching it. That and the pebble shows she's still able to interact with rocks without direct or indirect contact. The size means nothing besides the fact that she can, which I believe was the main pointGoing off memory there's also her bending the drill waste with Katara if that helps.
No, look back. The point was that she has to FEEL it, which she does. She has to be able to feel Earth, or she can't bend. Which is why she had to touch the meteor before bending it each time, or why she had to use her bending to feel the pebble on the table. The point was that Toph can't bend without using her Earth sense, which is also why her bending was so vastly hindered when she couldn't use her feet to feel vibrations, and had to use her hands or the like, when Zuko accidentally burned her.
Um... Yeah. And she was touching what then? By standing on the ground?