Originally posted by NephthysNever in any sources have a read have I come across a situation in which a bolt of lightining is not continually connected to the wielder's hands.
The lightning was a stream. It was connected from the blade to his hand and was continuously blasting. It was not a single bolt like Vitiates was. And Sidious adds the second hand as Yoda is being disarmed. The lightning of his second hand connects before the lightsaber goes from his grip.They were unleashed in quick succession, but were far enough apart that Revan batted one aside, ducked the second then deflected the third. So either Revan is just that fast or they were not almost simultaneous.
Almost anything from Lucas is considered G canon. Maybe not over on your forum, but here the script is taken as accurate. It explains how Sidious was disarmed at least. And in the script Yoda was deflecting Sidious' lightning with his lightsaber. And Revan wouldn't be more exhausted. Yoda is much older, had recently been knocked out and uses Ataru which is known to expend a lot of energy and fatigue practitioners swiftly. And Yoda had just had a saber battle with Darth Mofo-ing Sidious, which would obviously require Yoda to draw on a lot of energy to pull off. Revan by comparison had barely had to physically exert himself at all and his battle so far had been brief.
Isn't your own argument here against Ant that Yoda takes a while to build up his full strength? Isn't it possible it just took Yoda a second to get into the groove?
I wasn't aware it had to be proved that Vitiate's lightning is superior to Yoda's. It's hardly his strongest suit. Also I bite my thumb at that nexus argument.
Its the same thing, Vitiate released a three-pronged "stream" of lightning at Revan as did Yoda, attempting to make a disparity between the two is simply nitpicking. I really doubt it the stream had had an additional prong or two would it have knocked Revan's lightsaber from his grasp.
And no, as far as we can tell the whole thing is one-handed, we only see him intensify the stream with a second hand after Yoda has been disarmed and uses tutanimis.
Indeed the fact that Yoda initially catches the blast with but one-hand and later two indicates that this was the case.
Force User's can react in split-seconds, he is that fast.
But if it didn't happen in the movie its not canon, I couldn't really care less the what the "rules" of canon are here, fans don't make the rules. The script as far as I'm aware bears no canonical weight.
Yes and Revan had just enduring a powerful mental assault from the Emperor and unleashed a massive amount of energy through oneness.
And yes while that is true, this is as I said negated by Yoda's Force superiority and the fact that Sidious was not sitting on a DS nexus.
Lol Sidious.
And do that if you will, but I'm pretty sure the book itself describes as thrumming with the dark side, and the Sith Emperor would have most certainly designed his Citadel to focus DS energies.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Vitiate doesn't even exist in canon.
I don't debate with differentiation between Legends and Canon in mind, I just consider all official data.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Plus it is not as if they overwrite the previous quotes.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Wow Legend you really are a nutter, I'll reply to that later but my advise is read other again and try your best to address my points.
I am addressing your points in accordance with what you are responding to me. Nonetheless, I welcome your response/feedback.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDIts honest advice, I'm very much like you to review your response before I reply because it is in many parts evasive and irrelevant.
Insult, nice.I am addressing your points in accordance with what you are responding to me. Nonetheless, I welcome your response/feedback.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Never in any sources have a read have I come across a situation in which a bolt of lightining is not continually connected to the wielder's hands.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Its the same thing, Vitiate released a three-pronged "stream" of lightning at Revan as did Yoda, attempting to make a disparity between the two is simply nitpicking. I really doubt it the stream had had an additional prong or two would it have knocked Revan's lightsaber from his grasp.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yes and Revan had just enduring a powerful mental assault from the Emperor and unleashed a massive amount of energy through oneness.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
And yes while that is true, this is as I said negated by Yoda's Force superiority and the fact that Sidious was not sitting on a DS nexus.Lol Sidious.
And do that if you will, but I'm pretty sure the book itself describes as thrumming with the dark side, and the Sith Emperor would have most certainly designed his Citadel to focus DS energies.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I know, but this should stop me from considering canon information about canon characters?I don't debate with differentiation between Legends and Canon in mind, I just consider all official data.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
You do know that Legends and Canon are now two separate continuities right?
My point is that if I cam discussing a canon character, I tend to consider his canon information in debates.
Legends continuity covers Canon continuity within it.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Perfect, then that means you cannot dismiss that there are two quotes naming Yoda the most powerful Jedi up to his time.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
And the fact that the Ones' quote of being more powerful than any the Jedi have ever seen is higher up than Vitiate's accolades 👆
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't recall them saying any statements about Yoda is a derogatory way. If you are referring to that the clones would overcome him on Kashyyk, that is nothing new. No mere Sith/Jedi can stand against thousands of Clone Troopers with armored vehicles and ships.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Its not that. Yoda had been hyped as most powerful practitioner of light and most powerful Jedi ever in older sources. Disney retconned this with the declaration that he is stronger then most.
I find it funny that you separate the continuities sometimes, yet pool them together other times when it suits your purposes.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
How does that retcon anything? It doesn't contradict anything.
The forum rules you can find here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t441813.html , state that Lucas' word is law.
3. Anything George Lucas says about the Star Wars universe is incontestable. We kinda take that as a point of common sense.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The forum rules you can find here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t441813.html , state that Lucas' word is law.