Originally posted by Nephthys
The ground he's on would be sucked into the wormhole regardless though. 😉
Wouldn't really make a difference though, would it?
I mean come on, if Dooku can levitate himself through the Force, so can Luke...
He could also probably apply it to small other things like a small freighter.
Originally posted by NephthysWell this is interesting:
Vitiate did corrupt Dromund Kaas in ways other than just the storms. Akure, a massive sithspawn was also birthed from his influence on the planet.
Deep in the bowels of Dromund Kaas, another manifestation has been growing–a creature born far underground, a Sithspawn that has supped on the dark side for decades. For now, the beast remains lurking in the darkness, but its hunger is eternal and it is always, always growing.
Prove the entire planet is a nexus much?
While Legend is correct, in the sense that the Sith Emperor likely dispatched the Dark Council by bypassing their defenses, this does not in anyway imply that Luke could not defeat them all at once.
Sidious vs Jedi Strike Team is a very good analogy. The combined strength of Fisto, Tiin and Kolar (all acknowledged as very powerful Jedi) should have been enough to at least hold out against Sidious.
Yet individually they failed, they were blitzed in seconds. Because they couldn't combine that power. Now apply that to Luke vs DC. No one DC member is a match for Luke Skywalker, they would all be overwhelmed.
So it stands to reason that despite the collective power of the DC possibly surpassing Luke's own power, individually he can knock them down like dominoes.
However I don't think he could pull this off without great difficult, 12 is a big number and eventually they would begin to gang up on him.
Throw Krayt in the mix? Who possessed incredibly power of his own? I'd say they have a good chance of defeating the entire lot. Especially considering that Vowrawn is a mook so its basically 11.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
While Legend is correct, in the sense that the Sith Emperor likely dispatched the Dark Council by bypassing their defenses, this does not in anyway imply that Luke could not defeat them all at once.Sidious vs Jedi Strike Team is a very good analogy. The combined strength of Fisto, Tiin and Kolar (all acknowledged as very powerful Jedi) should have been enough to at least hold out against Sidious.
Yet individually they failed, they were blitzed in seconds. Because they couldn't combine that power. Now apply that to Luke vs DC. No one DC member is a match for Luke Skywalker, they would all be overwhelmed.
So it stands to reason that despite the collective power of the DC possibly surpassing Luke's own power, individually he can knock them down like dominoes.
However I don't think he could pull this off without great difficult, 12 is a big number and eventually they would begin to gang up on him.
Throw Krayt in the mix? Who possessed incredibly power of his own? I'd say they have a good chance of defeating the entire lot. Especially considering that Vowrawn is a mook so its basically 11.
- Luke struggled against Darth Caedus, got injured.
- Luke struggled against a powerful Dark Jedi Lord Nyax, in-fact, Lord Nyax would have overwhelmed Luke if the Jedi Master was not aided by others in this battle.
Let us not assume no-limits fallacy for Luke. Emperor's ground realities are different from him, Emperor is supreme master of Sith Sorcery, he unleashed a power with which he bypassed the defenses of the rebellious Dark Council. Luke does not have these talents.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
If Luke can single-handedly crush some of the greatest Sith Lords in groups, why he struggled against lone powerful opponents?- Luke struggled against Darth Caedus, got injured.
- Luke struggled against a powerful Dark Jedi Lord Nyax, in-fact, Lord Nyax would have overwhelmed Luke if the Jedi Master was not aided by others in this battle.Let us not assume no-limits fallacy for Luke. Emperor's ground realities are different from him, Emperor is supreme master of Sith Sorcery, he unleashed a power with which he bypassed the defenses of the rebellious Dark Council. Luke does not have these talents.
Caedus > Vitiate
And do you not think Luke was just a little conflicted in that battle?
As for Lord Nyax, I don't recall Luke ever struggling against him.
Stop. Overblowing. Vitiate.
Hell, just stop blowing vitiate in general, there are kids around, jesus.
Originally posted by Selenial
Caedus > Vitiate
Lord Nyax > Vitiate too, as per your logic.
Originally posted by Selenial
And do you not think Luke was just a little conflicted in that battle?As for Lord Nyax, I don't recall Luke ever struggling against him.
Stop. Overblowing. Vitiate.
Hell, just stop blowing vitiate in general, there are kids around, jesus.
I will prove you wrong again by posting information regarding Luke's battle against Lord Nyax. Do not tempt me.
You take your own advice and stop overblowing Luke.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I have proven you wrong about DE content.I will prove you wrong again by posting information regarding Luke's battle against Lord Nyax. Do not tempt me.
You take your own advice and stop overblowing Luke.
You didn't prove me wrong.
As per the usual, you posted a source that had absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about, I proved you wrong, and you decided not to reply in a pathetic attempt to save your dignity.
I almost feel bad for you.
Originally posted by Selenial
You didn't prove me wrong.As per the usual, you posted a source that had absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about, I proved you wrong, and you decided not to reply in a pathetic attempt to save your dignity.
I almost feel bad for you.
You are confusing Force Harmony with Wall of Light. Luke and Leia used their combined might to unleash Force Harmony technique on Sidious to disrupt his control over the Force Storm (Wormhole) power that he had summoned earlier.
Check the difference between Wall of Light and Force Harmony:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wall_of_light
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_harmony
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When Force Storm (Wormhole) power approached the flagship of Darth Sidious, the Jedi fled quickly and watched the power destroy the flagship from safe distance. Go back and recheck the scans that I provided.
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I am presenting facts, my dignity is not on the line. I am dealing with a bunch of kids here actually who are ignorant of the stuff they claim to know about and cannot understand provided information.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You failed to prove that their is a defense against Force Storm (Wormhole) power, you claimed that Luke tanked it.I proved you wrong, I corrected you that you are confusing Force Harmony with Wall of Light. Luke and Leia used Force Harmony technique on Sidious to disrupt his control over the Force Storm that he had summoned earlier.
Check the difference between Wall of Light and Force Harmony:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wall_of_light
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_harmony
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When Force Storm (Wormhole) power approached the flagship of Darth Sidious, the Jedi fled quickly and watched the power destroy the flagship from save distance. Go back and recheck the scans that I provided.
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I am presenting facts, my dignity is not on the line. I am dealing with a bunch of kids here.
Awwww, that's cute, that's really cute. Now youre making things up just to spite me? Nawww. <3
I said he survived, not tanked, so stop lying please.
Also, you're wrong. Force Harmony was a technique that pooled energies together and severed someone from the force.
The act, of severing someone from the force, as described in The Essential Guide to the Force:
"When you feel the dark side energies turned against you, you must use your Jedi abilities to take power away from an opponent, rather than to inflict harm. This technique blinds your enemy to the Force with a wall of light, a permanent blockage if you so choose, rendering him unable to use Jedi powers. It is difficult. And it is the most devastating attack possible using the powers of the light side. To block a Jedi from the Force—even a Dark Jedi—is a terrible thing."
And, believe it or not, (I'm serious, I don't care) What Luke and Leia did was also described as a flood of lightside energy encasing him...
It's Wall of Light.
Deal with it.
Well, that's Game, Set and Match. Onto the next one I guess.
Originally posted by Selenial
Awwww, that's cute, that's really cute. Now youre making things up just to spite me? Nawww. <3I said he survived, not tanked, so stop lying please.
Also, you're wrong. Force Harmony was a technique that pooled energies together and severed someone from the force.
The act, of severing someone from the force, as described in The Essential Guide to the Force:
"When you feel the dark side energies turned against you, you must use your Jedi abilities to take power away from an opponent, rather than to inflict harm. This technique blinds your enemy to the Force with a wall of light, a permanent blockage if you so choose, rendering him unable to use Jedi powers. It is difficult. And it is the most devastating attack possible using the powers of the light side. To block a Jedi from the Force—even a Dark Jedi—is a terrible thing."
And, believe it or not, (I'm serious, I don't care) What Luke and Leia did was also described as a flood of lightside energy encasing him...
It's Wall of Light.
Deal with it.
Well, that's Game, Set and Match. Onto the next one I guess.
Luke and Leia used Force Harmony on Sidious to disrupt his connection with his powers. They did not use Wall of Light, you need to get your facts straight and stop wasting time of others with misleading information.
Luke never had to defend against Force Storm (Wormhole) power. He could not as proven by his evasive actions when the said power approached the flagship of Darth Sidious.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDDarth Caedus > Sith Emperor. Yet Luke was capable of pinning him to a chair.
If Luke can single-handedly crush some of the greatest Sith Lords in groups, why he struggled against lone powerful opponents?- Luke struggled against Darth Caedus, got injured.
- Luke struggled against a powerful Dark Jedi Lord Nyax, in-fact, Lord Nyax would have overwhelmed Luke if the Jedi Master was not aided by others in this battle.Let us not assume no-limits fallacy for Luke. Emperor's ground realities are different from him, Emperor is supreme master of Sith Sorcery, he unleashed a power with which he bypassed the defenses of the rebellious Dark Council. Luke does not have these talents.
Luke Skywalker seemed to fair just fine against Lord Nyax, despite him having rather unorthodox weapons.
Being capable of standing against the might of the DC does not make Luke's powers limitless. He does not need to bypass their powers however, Luke has enough profound energy to blow straight through it.
Remembering Luke achieved the potential of the Chosen One, which would have giving him immense amounts of power.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Darth Caedus > Sith Emperor. Yet Luke was capable of pinning him to a chair.Luke Skywalker seemed to fair just fine against Lord Nyax, despite him having rather unorthodox weapons.
Being capable of standing against the might of the DC does not make Luke's powers limitless. He does not need to bypass their powers however, Luke has enough profound energy to blow straight through it.
Remembering Luke achieved the potential of the Chosen One, which would have giving him immense amounts of power.
I will get back to this argument later on.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDIt is you who are confused here. Force Harmony is a kind of BM that Leia used to give her powers to Luke. Sever Force or Wall of Light is the power they used to cut Sidious off from the dark side - a power they likely learned from the ancient masters of Exar Kun's era who used this power profusely.
You failed to prove that their is a defense against Force Storm (Wormhole) power, you claimed that Luke tanked it with Wall of Light. You, along with DarthAnt66, are both wrong.You are confusing Force Harmony with Wall of Light. Luke and Leia used their combined might to unleash Force Harmony technique on Sidious to disrupt his control over the Force Storm (Wormhole) power that he had summoned earlier.
Check the difference between Wall of Light and Force Harmony:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wall_of_light
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_harmony
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When Force Storm (Wormhole) power approached the flagship of Darth Sidious, the Jedi fled quickly and watched the power destroy the flagship from safe distance. Go back and recheck the scans that I provided.
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I am presenting facts, my dignity is not on the line. I am dealing with a bunch of kids here actually who are ignorant of the stuff they claim to know about and cannot understand provided information.
And keep your hair on, else you'll go bald at this rate.