@Beniboybling
You did not answer my question. I am waiting.
Originally posted by Selenial
It's cute that you think Wookieepedia knows anything about post ROTJ.And that article proves exactly what I'm saying, I'd feel bad for you, if I didnt already hate you.
Do you understand the importance of citing evidence?
Originally posted by Selenial
I don't need to. But yes, I did.No. They used Force Harmony and Sever force in conjunction.
You are literally infuriating, even for an 12 year old. I'm just going to hope that this: 💃 Will keep you distracted long enough to forget this thread.
You are blatantly disregarding the things I'm saying because you know you're wrong.
Admit defeat.
Here is an explanation from DE Sourcebook:
Leia and Luke Skywalker try to disrupt Palpatine's Force storm, which is destroying the Republic’s fleet. Palpatine is in the room with them. Luke and Leia and Leia ‘s new child are related by blood and are all strong with the Force. Leia spends a Force Point and links Luke and the child with the Light Side; her control roll is 47 and her sense roll is 36. She successfully uses the Force harmony power, giving everyone a +5D against the effects of any Dark Side powers. If both of these rolls exceed 75 Palpatine's highest skill roll when he summoned the Force storm, then Palpatine's control over the Force storm is severed.
You are so clueless about this matter and DE content in general, that this is not even funny.
Defeat? I accept your concession here as well.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
FotJ Luke has not been shown to be much stronger than DE Sidious. He's stronger, to be sure, but not much stronger. Palpatine learned Force Storm soon after RotS, so it's definitely in RotJ Palpatine's disposal. After his resurrection, he learned more about Dark Side rituals than anything, but his power did not increase vastly beyond the last time he was seen in a film where Lucas wanted Luke to be twice as strong as him.Anakin on the other hand could handle the Children, alone, a feat only he could have done. The Children are far stronger than DE Palpatine, and Anakin handled both of them.
Just from what I've seen while looking into it. I brought the subject up a while ago before looking into it myself.
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Luke isn't infinitely stronger than Sidious by any stretch of the imagination.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Do you understand the importance of citing evidence?Force Harmony is a complex Force power which can be used offensively to sever or disrupt connection of an individual to the Force.
Defeat? I accept your concession here as well.
I already cited evidence. You just chose to ignore it, because you realised you were wrong.
Disrupting the connection of someone to the force requires the Wall of Light, therefore you just admitted I'm right.
Thank you very much.
Originally posted by Selenial
I already cited evidence. You just chose to ignore it, because you realised you were wrong.Disrupting the connection of someone to the force requires the Wall of Light, therefore you just admitted I'm right.
Thank you very much.
You need to provide evidence that Luke and Leia used Wall of Light against Sidious, official sources are pointing out that they used Force Harmony technique.
Originally posted by Selenial
He's feeling embarrassed about losing to me so badly, he's grasping at thin air.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is not evidence, this is assumption.You need to provide evidence that Luke and Leia used Wall of Light against Sidious, official sources are pointing out that they used Force Harmony technique.
OP is another clueless person like you.
It's not assumption.
They severed him from the force. To sever someone from the force you encase them in a wall of light. The same article from Wookieepedia that you linked says that they flooded him with light side energy.
I'm right. Deal with it.
Here is an explanation from DE Sourcebook:Leia and Luke Skywalker try to disrupt Palpatine's Force storm, which is destroying the Republic’s fleet. Palpatine is in the room with them. Luke and Leia and Leia ‘s new child are related by blood and are all strong with the Force. Leia spends a Force Point and links Luke and the child with the Light Side; her control roll is 47 and her sense roll is 36. She successfully uses the Force harmony power, giving everyone a +5D against the effects of any Dark Side powers. If both of these rolls exceed 75 Palpatine's highest skill roll when he summoned the Force storm, then Palpatine's control over the Force storm is severed.
Doesn't this count as game mechanics? I mean, it is for an RPG, after all...
Wall of Light, Sever Force and Force Harmony are clearly all variants of the same power i.e. using pure light side energy to combat a dark sider. It seems that this can be used to disrupt dark side Force powers, empower light side Force Users and sever dark siders from the Force by enveloping them in the light side.
But Selenial is correct considering that Emperor Palpatine was engulfed in a wave of light side energy, because this is the textbook description of sever Force/wall of light. Obviously Force Harmony is just a different name to describe the same power in order to account for its other faculties.
Altogether this is a silly debate, Luke and Leia severed Sidious from the Force using the power of the light side. Period. End of discussion.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Wall of Light, Sever Force and Force Harmony are clearly all variants of the same power i.e. using pure light side energy to combat a dark sider. It seems that this can be used to disrupt dark side Force powers, empower light side Force Users and sever dark siders from the Force by enveloping them in the light side.But Selenial is correct considering that Emperor Palpatine was engulfed in a wave of light side energy, because this is the textbook description of sever Force/wall of light. Obviously Force Harmony is just a different name to describe the same power in order to account for its other faculties.
Altogether this is a silly debate, Luke and Leia severed Sidious from the Force using the power of the light side. Period. End of discussion.
Also, you have not answered my question yet.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I was under the impression that sever force had nothing to do with one's Force alignment--The canonically LS Exile was going to be severed by the Councillors in TSL.
No one's quite sure how that's possible, but it doesn't matter as we now Wall of Light is required to sever force energy.
It's possible that the Wound she had was inherently evil and Dark, and that encasing her in a Wall of Light would rid her of the wound and end her connection to the Force.
Yeh, no one's really sure how they planned on doing that, it's possible they considered her as Dark and it wouldnt have worked even if they weren't interrupted.
Originally posted by Selenial
No one's quite sure how that's possible, but it doesn't matter as we now Wall of Light is required to sever force energy.It's possible that the Wound she had was inherently evil and Dark, and that encasing her in a Wall of Light would rid her of the wound and end her connection to the Force.
Yeh, no one's really sure how they planned on doing that, it's possible they considered her as Dark and it wouldnt have worked even if they weren't interrupted.
Yeah but..... Meetra was able to sever herself in the past right? Or is that different.
No one's quite sure how that's possible, but it doesn't matter as we now Wall of Light is required to sever force energy.
Or perhaps there is more than one method of achieving that singular outcome.
After all, Sever Force is listed as a separate ability from Wall of Light, even if the latter can be used to cut a dark sider from the Force.