Captain Marvel VS Kurse

lol

i gotta admire the subtle hand that so derailed this thread though. it's like i need a berserker ignore button cuz the normal one is not strong enuff!!1!

on thread, kurse in a standard kmc dome. cm has the speed to stay away from him, but even a blitz isn't ko'ing kurse before a couple shots turn the tide imo. in a book, the wisdom of solomon should allow him to deduce the weakness. if there is sufficient iron around billy could take it. otherwise he gets pulped. like anyone in the thor/herc/sm/supes class would in a straight up fight.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
In FC Superman asked Billy to help him lift the infinity book. They are quals, though if Superman cuts loose he should be above him, like he was in OWAW.

I believe that Captain Marvel was actually an alternate dimensional counter-part to Superman.

Originally posted by Galan007
nothing wrong with that. in fact, i probably would too. i'm referring mainly to those select few posters who are ridiculously claiming that shazam is a dianna-level character who is many orders of magnitude below clark. they've met several times on panel and have ALWAYS been treated as near-equals.

to claim that the intent of DC is the exact opposite of what we've consistently been shown on panel, is just.....well.....f*cking stupid. 👇

The great irony is the exact example you've cited twice does not show them to be equals if you read the story.

^ i never said they were 'equals'. 'near-equals' and/or 'peers' is the terminology i've repeatedly used.

like i said: i've no problem with superman being the stronger of the two, so long as it's understood that the difference between he and shazam is nominal. DC has always portrayed them as such. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
^ i never said they were 'equals'. 'near-equals' and/or 'peers' is the terminology i've repeatedly used.

like i said: i've no problem with superman being the stronger of the two--so long as it's understood that the difference between he and shazam is nominal.

Considering everything that happened, there was a statement of a "edge" because of Captain Marvel's mystical nature, and Cap still a best stalemated? "Nominal" indeed.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol

i gotta admire the subtle hand that so derailed this thread though. it's like i need a berserker ignore button cuz the normal one is not strong enuff!!1!

on thread, kurse in a standard kmc dome. cm has the speed to stay away from him, but even a blitz isn't ko'ing kurse before a couple shots turn the tide imo. in a book, the wisdom of solomon should allow him to deduce the weakness. if there is sufficient iron around billy could take it. otherwise he gets pulped. like anyone in the thor/herc/sm/supes class would in a straight up fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
berserker rage as in wolverine? So wolverine becomes more than 5x stronger when he enters berserker rage?

I think he is refering to The Blonde Whore, Thor.

I've never personally seen what the big deal was about CM/BA being rough equals with Superman. The second it's brought up its met with extreme resistance.

It's not like it lowers Superman or bolsters the Shazam twins. It's just to give an estimate of strength. Ie if Superman can do this then they should and vice versa.
I mean it's not like the grasping for WW and MM that would make no sense either. I don't know, just seems odd to me. Though I feel the same way about Orion but at least he has some "Save me Superman" feats that you can play off of.

With that said, Billy solos the entire Thor rogue roster.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I've never personally seen what the big deal was about CM/BA being rough equals with Superman. The second it's brought up its met with extreme resistance.

It's not like it lowers Superman or bolsters the Shazam twins. It's just to give an estimate of strength. Ie if Superman can do this then they should and vice versa.
I mean it's not like the grasping for WW and MM that would make no sense either. I don't know, just seems odd to me. Though I feel the same way about Orion but at least he has some "Save me Superman" feats that you can play off of.

With that said, Billy solos the entire Thor rogue roster.

There's definitely examples of showing Captain Marvel as a near-equal, but there's also plenty of examples showing Superman is more than a little stronger. Even in at least one of their direct fights. There's comparative examples I feel get overlooked(or are simply unknown) in favor of saying "they're virtual equals." Which to me feels like the cherry picking.

And you forgot that Billy solos DESPITE being distracted by thinking too much about how he REALLY wishes he had X-Ray vision every time Cortney pops into his head.

Originally posted by Delta1938
There's definitely examples of showing Captain Marvel as a near-equal, but there's also plenty of examples showing Superman is more than a little stronger. Even in at least one of their direct fights. There's comparative examples I feel get overlooked(or are simply unknown) in favor of saying "they're virtual equals." Which to me feels like the cherry picking.

And you forgot that Billy solos DESPITE being distracted by thinking too much about how he REALLY wishes he had X-Ray vision every time Cortney pops into his head.

Which fight between the two shows a gap in strength?

Originally posted by leonidas
lol gawd, how i'd love to see that happen....he'll never except your challenge in a million years though. he'd lose for certain and being banned for a month=no anti-superman hate for a month. he couldn't stand it. 😂

Originally posted by JBL
Take a challenge while you and 50 other superman fans pollute the challenge? You think i will accept that?? There is not a superman writer that's dumb enough to state that superman has dynamic strength, its superman fans that make that claim, even claming that superman can only access 20% of his strength because of mental blocks.LMAO!!..... One minute they say he can go all-out and rise above his peers then in the ever common blooper, state that he cannot dip into his might because of mental blocks.LMAO, And all the while, you have statements of him going all-out against other characters, getting over-powered, getting beaten, meeting stronger characters While NOTHING has even been written that he can stop holding back or drop mental blocks to win against major threats, even admitted on-panel that he DOES NOT have the power to stop imperix and needed everyones help, so you take that little rat on your page and keep eating your hidden superman cheese. If superman had dynamic strength, it would be as clear as day and made known by ALL his writers like ALL of hulks writers have done for many years. Superman himself ( which is the living writers words ) has stated many times he was giving all he had, BUT what do superman fans do??? They have to get creative and desperate, SOOOOOOOO, they dream up mental blocks and say he cannot access his might because of blocks???LMAO. Do you think i want to end this great comedy that gives me a good healthy laugh every day?? You got me bent. And for the record, his mental blocks are there so that he does not have to keep reminding himself to be careful around humans, weaker foes as not to hurt or kill them, get it???? He can use all his strength against his peers and stronger foes, get it?? Of course you dont get it, you belong to the house of EL as undercover as you might think you are.

Those are fighting words..

If you think you can battle zone this with Delta, why don't you put some stipulations so that the thread doesn't get polluted?

Also lets make this more irresistible for him.

What if We throw in TWO pineapples ?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Also lets make this more irresistible for him.

What if We throw in TWO pineapples ?

You're going to drive him insane.

Originally posted by Diesldude
You're going to drive him insane.

So what does the legitimacy of Superman's dynamic strength have to do with this thread?

Kurse wins

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Also lets make this more irresistible for him.

What if We throw in TWO pineapples ?

Originally posted by Diesldude
You're going to drive him insane.

Originally posted by JBL
Those two pics of superman would be a lot better, no one on here worship pineapples.

Better? 😆

Kurse flattened Thor, I dont see Capt Marvel doing any better.

Originally posted by DTM
Kurse flattened Thor, I dont see Capt Marvel doing any better.

How often does Billy use that Wisdom of Solomon?