Captain Marvel VS Kurse · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, that'd be silly. Why would Superman ask Power Girl if she is affected or why would Katana mention the fact that Superman was actually slower than normal? And as you know, Luthor explained that once the meteor would come near saturn and its radiation would be felt on earth as explained here.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Miscellaneous/PC-Superman/SUPERMAN_BATMAN1-PG20-21.jpg.html

"COULD" start feeling it on earth. this obviously isn't the same as "WILL" start feeling it on earth. again: ambiguous at best. like i said earlier: if loeb intended superman to be weakened when he fought shazam, we would have been blatantly informed of such.

in fact, it wasn't stated that the kryptonite radiation had began piercing earth's atmosphere and negatively affecting superman until issue #6(the final issue of the arc, and 2 issues AFTER he'd fought shazam):
http://i.imgur.com/VXMk8HS.jpg
"it's the asteroid. even from space, the kryptonite radiation is STARTING to pierce our atmosphere."

see the difference? no ambiguity to be had. that right there busts this little myth you two are trying to propagate. 👆

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's how the fights between peers go.

yes, they are peers/near-equals, which has been my contention this entire time.

i don't care about the unrelated superman wank-feats you posted.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Galan007
"COULD" start feeling it on earth. this obviously isn't the same as "WILL" start feeling it on earth. again: ambiguous at best. like i said earlier: if loeb intended superman to be weakened when he fought shazam, we would have been blatantly informed of such.
in fact, it wasn't stated that the kryptonite radiation had began piercing earth's atmosphere and negatively affecting superman until issue #6(the final issue of the arc, and 2 issues AFTER he'd fought shazam):
http://i.imgur.com/VXMk8HS.jpg
"it's the asteroid. even from space, the kryptonite radiation is STARTING to pierce our atmosphere."
see the difference? no ambiguity to be had. that right there busts this little myth you two are trying to propagate. 👆

Yeah, I would take Lex and scientist's words against Batman's words, who was shown to be woefully incompetent in that arc.

And if there was kryptonite starting to pierce Earth's atmosphere two issues after the fight, why even mention it before?

And kryptonite is only one factor in Superman's weakness, he was also drained by Nightshade before that.

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Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, I would take Lex and scientist's words against Batman's words, who was shown to be woefully incompetent in that arc.
And if there was kryptonite starting to pierce Earth's atmosphere two issues after the fight, why even mention it before?
And kryptonite is only one factor in Superman's weakness, he was also drained by Nightshade before that.
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we were explicitly told...in black and white...with no ambiguity to be had...exactly WHEN the k-nite ACTUALLY began piercing the atmosphere and negatively affecting superman--and it was WELL AFTER he fought shazam.

but naturally you'd rather accept any theory that agrees with your superman-wank, even if it means ignoring incontrovertible evidence.

*sighs* why do i even try? facepalm

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Galan007
yes, they are peers/near-equals, which has been my contention this entire time.
i don't care about the unrelated superman wank-feats you posted.

Haha, that's what you're trying to do? My bad then. Superman is stronger though. And for your diana comment, here is Superman mentioning that Diana and Cap hit the same.

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I can bring more evidence of J'onn being Superman's equal in strength, yet we know they aren't equals.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Galan007
we were explicitly told...in black and white...with no ambiguity to be had...exactly WHEN the k-nite ACTUALLY began piercing the atmosphere and negatively affecting superman--and it was WELL AFTER he fought shazam.
but naturally you'd rather accept any theory that agrees with your superman-wank, even if it means ignoring incontrovertible evidence.
*sighs* why do i even try? facepalm

facepalm

Superman was getting affected by kryptonite but Batman wasn't certain since Superman wasn't showing outward reaction to it. Batman stated that after Superman was actually showing signs of kryptonite poisoning. Doesn't has to contradict each other.

And my point was that Superman was weakened. No wanking there.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, that's what you're trying to do? My bad then. Superman is stronger though.

if you'd actually read my posts before going on this tangent, you'd see that i already agreed that superman was the stronger of the two. all i've said is that the difference between them is typically portrayed as marginal. simple.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Galan007
if you'd actually read my posts before going on this tangent, you'd see that i already agreed that superman was the stronger of the two. all i've said is that the difference between them is typically portrayed as marginal. simple.

Me sowwy.

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Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm
Superman was getting affected by kryptonite but Batman wasn't certain since Superman wasn't showing outward reaction to it. Batman stated that after Superman was actually showing signs of kryptonite poisoning. Doesn't has to contradict each other.
And my point was that Superman was weakened. No wanking there.

the simple fact is that loeb explicitly/blatantly/unambiguously(key words) told us via narration that the kryptonite hadn't began piercing earth's atmosphere and negatively affecting superman until issue #6:

so if said radiation didn't break through earth's atmosphere until issue #6, then it obviously hadn't yet broken through earth's atmosphere in issue #4. therefore i do not believe loeb intended superman to be weakened when he fought shazam in the latter issue--at least not enough to affect his performance.

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abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Galan007
the simple fact is that loeb explicitly/blatantly/unambiguously(key words) told us via narration that the kryptonite hadn't began piercing earth's atmosphere and negatively affecting superman until issue #6:
so if said radiation didn't break through earth's atmosphere until issue #6, then it obviously hadn't yet broken through earth's atmosphere in issue #4. therefore i do not believe loeb intended superman to be weakened when he fought shazam in the latter issue--at least not enough to affect his performance.
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I disagree. The fact that Batman had no way of discovering when the radiation would start piercing the atmosphere other than Superman's signs and Lex and scientists' deductions contradicting the fact. Its not uncommon for

And what of Nightshade draining Superman?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Galan007
the simple fact is that loeb explicitly/blatantly/unambiguously(key words) told us via narration that the kryptonite hadn't began piercing earth's atmosphere and negatively affecting superman until issue #6:
so if said radiation didn't break through earth's atmosphere until issue #6, then it obviously hadn't yet broken through earth's atmosphere in issue #4. therefore i do not believe loeb intended superman to be weakened when he fought shazam in the latter issue--at least not enough to affect his performance.
🙂

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Magog Senior Member

Originally posted by leonidas
lol
i gotta admire the subtle hand that so derailed this thread though. it's like i need a berserker ignore button cuz the normal one is not strong enuff!!1!
on thread, kurse in a standard kmc dome. cm has the speed to stay away from him, but even a blitz isn't ko'ing kurse before a couple shots turn the tide imo. in a book, the wisdom of solomon should allow him to deduce the weakness. if there is sufficient iron around billy could take it. otherwise he gets pulped. like anyone in the thor/herc/sm/supes class would in a straight up fight.

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Rao Kal El DJ FrostByte

Originally posted by Galan007
...none of this makes the specific verbiage used in that scene any less ambiguous.

I disagree, the words "already" and "kryptonite" are being emphasized in there for a reason, pretty much like the words "captain Marvel" and "magic" are emphasized for a reason :/

JBL Wrestling God

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I disagree, the words "already" and "kryptonite" are being emphasized in there for a reason, pretty much like the words "captain Marvel" and "magic" are emphasized for a reason :/

Well of course you will disagree with anything going against superman, we already knew you would, you don't have to tell us, WEEEEE KNOWWWW.

Rao Kal El DJ FrostByte

Originally posted by LBJ's
Debating is a waste of time because if superman had dynamic strength, it would stop writers and the likes from FLAT OUT STATING that superman, CM, BA and plenty others are in the same strength class or equals. Very simple to understand if your nose is away from supes rear. Why would DC comics, writers and others make claims like this if one could stop holding back or drop (LMAO)mental blocks and gain anywhere between the fan made up 1 to 5x strength gain.
A for the strength of Amon Black Adam has a phenomenal level of super strength, able to easily bend steel, punch through walls, produce powerful shockwaves by clapping his hands, and lift massive objects. Adam's strength is generally depicted of being on levels equal to those of Superman and Captain Marvel, though some writers have portrayed his strength as possibly outmatching them. On at least one occasion, he has been able to hold his own against an assemblage of the Justice League, Justice Society, Great Ten, Martian Manhunter (who has strength depicted as close to Superman) and the Teen Titans

I was being polite because I feel pity for guys that emasculate themselves. (namely you)

Originally posted by LBJ's
Well of course you will disagree with anything going against superman, we already knew you would, you don't have to tell us, WEEEEE KNOWWWW.

Thanks for your unvaluable input, useless as always. 👆

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deathlife Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
yes, they are peers/near-equals, which has been my contention this entire time.
i don't care about the unrelated superman wank-feats you posted.

This basically.

Superman and CM are peers.

Superman might be stronger but only just marginally.

Delta1938 True King of House of El

Originally posted by JBL
The third superman fan has arrived, the circle is complete. The pollution has been named, thus i decline a challenge from a superman fan with his superman fan followers at every turn. It reminds me of this...
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/animals-trial-crime-criminal-bad_news-problems-jfa1032l.jpg
Or this..
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-t7Lvnu98MdQ/UnUwebJ2vVI/AAAAAAAAAZA/EdNub6wJb0g/s1600/bias+jury.png
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You can do all the spinning you want. You're simply afraid. You've BEEN told numerous times that BZ debates can't be "polluted."

Originally posted by JBL
That's right, a man that claims he's pimping a man is Ok in your book as long as you both love and worship a MAN in tights and a cape. 😆 . Please never stop, i love to laugh like this. 😆

You actually are this dense. I'm saying you're my b!tch because you're afraid to do the actual BZ debate. You make excuses that aren't even valid because BZ debates don't work that way. Just like the Pete thing, you're not smart enough to figure it out. Urinecompetent, pineappple boy, just like your buddy Quanny cakes.

Originally posted by JBL

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Delta1938 True King of House of El

Originally posted by Galan007
YouTube video

What great insight. I'm almost swayed by your knowledge, intelligence, wisdom and great understanding of the comics. But not quite. The storyline pounds the Kryptonite effecting Superman too many times for "ambiguous" to be a valid argument. Loeb was making it clear. Good day ma'am.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

^ obviously your levels of butthurtery have reached an all-time high, as evident by this childishness. sorry, next time i'll try not to DESTROY your little theories with incontrovertible on panel evidence. stay mad, though. 👆

also, reported. 👆

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I disagree, the words "already" and "kryptonite" are being emphasized in there for a reason, pretty much like the words "captain Marvel" and "magic" are emphasized for a reason :/

except for the fact that we were told EXACTLY when the k-nite ACTUALLY started to pierce earth's atmosphere--and it wasn't until issue #6:

Originally posted by Galan007
the simple fact is that loeb explicitly/blatantly/unambiguously(key words) told us via narration that the kryptonite hadn't began piercing earth's atmosphere and negatively affecting superman until issue #6:
so if said radiation didn't break through earth's atmosphere until issue #6, then it obviously hadn't yet broken through earth's atmosphere in issue #4. therefore i do not believe loeb intended superman to be weakened when he fought shazam in the latter issue--at least not enough to affect his performance.
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therefore loeb rendered the ambiguous dialogue that took place BEFORE issue #6 entirely obsolete.

Delta1938 True King of House of El

Originally posted by Galan007
^ obviously your levels of butthurtery have reached an all-time high, as evident by this childishness. sorry, next time i'll try not to DESTROY your little theories with incontrovertible on panel evidence. stay mad, though. 👆
also, reported. 👆
except for the fact that we were told EXACTLY when the k-nite ACTUALLY started to pierce earth's atmosphere--and it wasn't until issue #6:
therefore loeb rendered the ambiguous dialogue that took place BEFORE issue #6 entirely obsolete.

Nah no butthurt her. No childishness either(ironic considering your past). You're ignoring too much and clinging to "ambiguity." And I know you need to emphasize your belief of destroying my "little theories" but I'm not worried about your time of the month.

Good day ma'am.