First Hokage and Madara Uchiha vs Yamamoto and Chojiro

Originally posted by marwash22
from a distance tho.

Not seeing how that makes them faster than a guy who literally teleports.

i don't know the context of what you're talking about to be offended by it.

Yama doesn't use normal fire, the amount of flames naruto characters produce is irrelevant when you compare their flames heat to Yama's. You're especially damaging your own argument when we consistently see naruto character avoid those "ordinary" flames in effort to not get burned to death. Yama's flames are substantially hotter than anything in the Naruto universe outside of the actual sun.

What are you basing this on, Amatarasu craps on Yamato's fire and even that seems to be no showed in battle.

Originally posted by marwash22
shunpo lets you jump over spaces.

it's not simply running from point A to point C, shunpo let's you completely skip over point B and get to point C.

Shunpo is not running fast, and no, a genin can not duplicate it.

staph it.

Originally posted by pym-ftw

What are you basing this on, Amatarasu craps on Yamato's fire and even that seems to be no showed in battle. actually they have a very similar ability but the range is far less.

While I agree that Yamamoto gets stomped, are you really serious about Amaterasu being >>>> Yamamoto's fire? 😐

Amaterasu didn't get through armor before it was removed. Yamamoto's fire could have vaped a town had he not taken the attack himself, and his Bankai did this

Amaterasu is the deadlier fire, it's not the larger attack though.

Yamamotos bankai is absolute nothingness, it doesn't burn; it negates its existence with the heat of a sun. If you are touched by his sword you cease to exist and if you touch him in bankai, the same thing. People have been touched by Ameratsu and have tossed their clothes off and lived. It burns forever if it touches you when cast but its hardly negating existence.

I'm not seeing the difference? If either hits you, you will die if you don't stop it.

Just for those who don't know, lighting is as hot as the sun.

Is the equivalency rule in place with reiatsu being the same as chakra?

No, the sun is literally a fusion explosion. Lighting is just static from clouds. If you had a piece of plasma on the earth it would literally burn a hole through the earth as nothing can contain it.

So if i drop my plasma cutter, i will destroy the earth? I feel like a little warning on the machine is needed. 😗

Since the equavlency rule is in place in the other thread then I'm assuming the same is true here. In which case Madara can solely pretty effortlessly lol.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Amaterasu is the deadlier fire, it's not the larger attack though.

Nah its not yamajii's fire is hotter burns way faster than amaterasu and turns everything it touches to ash within an instant. Amaterasu is a slow butning process. Weve seen many instances where an opponent lives from the attack because of the slow burn.

If we use the energy equivalence rule than yamma jii could still be seen as the possible victor because madara not the first hokage have ever exerted their "energy and made the person fall to their kneees and cease to breath. Yama jii's mere presence can crush an opponents soul.

On the flip side, a Madara can absorb Zanka no Tachi if reiatsu equals chakra.

or, ya know, Yama can shunpo behind them both and punch their heads off before either of them can react.

😬

Originally posted by AuraAngel
On the flip side, a Madara can absorb Zanka no Tachi if reiatsu equals chakra.

Regardless yamma is still physically stronger fighter remember twin bones. That attack turned WW into ash

Originally posted by marwash22
or, ya know, Yama can shunpo behind them both and punch their heads off before either of them can react.

😬

You say that as though teleporting is something Madara has never fought before.

Originally posted by yungz22
Regardless yamma is still physically stronger fighter remember twin bones. That attack turned WW into ash

Madara was pummeled by the Bijuu. It took a 45 tails hitting multiple times just to tear off his arm. And he would simply heal the damage lol.

Madara has not faced shunpo before. You can't compare FTG and the like to shunpo.

Also, a punch from Yama would explode his head. he's not healing anything. No one in Naruto has displayed the physical strength of Gin who was cutting buildings clean in half, and Yama absolutely dwarfs him in strength.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
You say that as though teleporting is something Madara has never fought before.

Madara was pummeled by the Bijuu. It took a 45 tails hitting multiple times just to tear off his arm. And he would simply heal the damage lol.

Madara has never withstood a physical attack that causes the body to fade away break down into ash.

The tsuchikage's Genkai hakuri would have killed madara if he wasnt an edo tensei at the time.

Originally posted by marwash22
Madara has not faced shunpo before. You can't compare FTG and the like to shunpo.

Also, a punch from Yama would explode his head. he's not healing anything. No one in Naruto has displayed the physical strength of Gin who was cutting buildings clean in half, and Yama absolutely dwarfs him in strength.

Indeed. FTG has far better feats. As does Mabui's move.

Yeah the Bijuu are weaker than city block busting.

Originally posted by yungz22
Madara has never withstood a physical attack that causes the body to fade away break down into ash.

The tsuchikage's Genkai hakuri would have killed madara if he wasnt an edo tensei at the time.

Neat. Too bad Wonderweiss didn't turn into ash until after he released the fire.

Well no since Madara can absorb chakra. And Yamamoto's flames as far as this thread is concerned lol.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Indeed. FTG has far better feats. As does Mabui's move.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Yeah the Bijuu are weaker than city block busting.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Neat. Too bad Wonderweiss didn't turn into ash until after he released the fire.

Um, yeah, this thread is high.

Characters weaker than Madara were able to overcome Amaterasu, which is more impressive than what Yamamoto has shown, being able to heat up the atmosphere in seconds from thousands of miles away, as well as burning chakra enhanced flames.

Not to mention that Madara's AND Hashirama's destruction, durability, speed, AND strength feats ALL vastly outweigh anything shown in all of Bleach. Hell, Madara literally chopped down a mountain range with a single swing of his sword, and Hashirama overpowered even him.

Show me a feat on par with Madara summoning two meteors on top of each other with a thought, throwing country busting attacks over oceans and destroying the other side, and literally making a country sized wooden mech with a million arms, and the ability to knock out mountain range+ level biju by touching them with it's palm.

This is a rape stomp that begins and ends with Madara putting the other two in a genjutsu and vaporizing them.