Runner/Silver Surfer vs Zoom/Flash

Started by Inhuman8 pages
Originally posted by Golgo13
👆 Insane feat.

agreed. "At a hairs breath short of lightspeed"

@Galan

You should know better than to post garbage scans like that...

According to that scan, nothing is faster than light, but in the Marvel Universe, we know thats not true...dont we?

Originally posted by Inhuman
agreed. "At a hairs breath short of lightspeed"

That feat has been debated to death. It says under light speed, but it really wasn't.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Don't see PG.

You didnt look hard enough then; page 2, 5th link of Abhi's...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You didnt look hard enough then; page 2, 5th link of Abhi's...

Isn't that Jessie Quick?

lulz, i love throwing grenade-scans into a thread, and watching the subsequent chaos unfold. 👆

as for the makkari race being "PIS", it's also worth noting that runner's most recent OHOTMU bio caps his speed at c as well:

just throwing that out there. 🙂

Runner threads always boil down to him not having but like 3 or so appearances. So there isnt much as far as feats. Doesnt help that one of his feats was in that Quasar book.
Aslo its fun to post super high end feats and forget characters getting tagged all the time as well.

anyhow this is a not a CIS less battle.
as far as being CIS less, I have posted this before because for some reason people seen to loose their minds when they see "no CIS" in a thread topic

Originally posted by Badabing
CIS off does not mean debaters control a character as they would in a tournament. It also does not mean a character will fight out of character.

because if fanboyism goes unchecked then this happens...

Originally posted by great_dane
ya. wally west has never used his powers to their fullest, becasue if he were to move faster than the speedforce(which he can), the uninerse itself would inplode and not exist anymore. so even if eternity is the ebodyment of all living matter, and has been around since the beginning of time, the flash would be able to kamikaze him.

you do realize that absolutely everything myself and DS have said regarding flash/zoom has been confirmed with on-panel evidence, right? nothing i/we have mentioned is conjecture.

for example:
-flash CAN react by the attosecond.
-flash CAN calculate infinite scenarios in order to find any possible weakness in his opponent, instantly.
-flash CAN run without a physical plane beneath his feet.
-flash CAN IMP/one-shot heralds.
-a zoom-blitz CAN harm heralds as well.
-zoom's speed DOES make flash's look utterly pathetic in comparison.
etc. etc. etc.

...but yeah, i guess 'fanboyism' is the best way to refer to fact-based arguments these days. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
you do realize that absolutely everything myself and DS have said regarding flash/zoom has been confirmed with on-panel evidence, right? nothing i/we have mentioned is conjecture.

for example:
-flash CAN react by the attosecond.
-flash CAN calculate infinite scenarios in order to find any possible weakness in his opponent, instantly.
-flash CAN run without a physical plane beneath his feet.
-flash CAN IMP/one-shot heralds.
-a zoom-blitz CAN harm heralds as well.
-zoom's speed DOES make flash's look utterly pathetic in comparison.
etc. etc. etc.

...but yeah, i guess 'fanboyism' is the best way to refer to fact-based arguments these days. /shrug

Well, apparently others can react at this speed as well judging by the rate in which he gets tagged...

What do people not understand about the rules?

'Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.'

Flash has a feat where he evacuated a large city in china in less than a fraction of a second. The math was done for it since the
page provided the number of people he moved, the distance per person, and how long it took in total.

The result was that flash was moving at speeds far beyond multiplications of light speed, in fact its the fastest objective (non subjective) speed feat in comics i know.

The point is that This not a cis less fight. Flash gets tagged all the time and not by gods only.
Its not crazy to assume 2 cosmic characters like runner & surfer can tag flash is it? I mean they deal with light speeds and such all the time. And again flash gets tagged by less than light speed beings all the time.
If it was a CIS less fight then I can understand totally insane comments like Flash beating galactus or eternity. Those comments are still laughable but , ok I get it, some think very highly of the uber high feats of their favorite characters.

Still what I dont get is what is the point of Flash-natics making flash vs threads anyway besides enjoying comments like "flash wins in an attosedond" appearing in their screen.
If to some Flash and Zoom are untouchable and can basically do anything with the speed force, vibrating, time traveling etc then there is no point in even responding to flash threads.
And it has nothing to do with "just accept that they are that uber" thats how they are portrayed in comics because like I said they get tagged all the time IN comics. accept that as well.

Maybe im the crazy one because I think runner and surfer can tag flash and zoom. Pardon my wishful thinking, did not want to offend these deities with my lowballing.

^He still fights at full capacity.

He rarely fights at full capacity in the comics.

Doesn't matter if Deathstroke's tagged him once or twice in the comics, if he's fighting at full capacity deathstroke won't tag him.

this IS a CIS-less fight, per the OP...

CIS is on. You can not ignore that. Flash fights in character. Ok, I take it back. If it's CIS less then the Flashes wins.

Originally posted by Galan007
this IS a CIS-less fight, per the OP...

Then i guess these 2 scrubs gets destroyed by flash/zoom before the fight even begins baka

People don't seem to understand that even in a CIS-less fight, the Flash would do his utmost to win, as they're fighting at full capacity per the forum rules :/

CIS off would just enable stuff like Flash smearing Surfer on the boardwalk like a bug...

read the OP, guys:

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Hunter and Wally

No pis/cis

Who wins

Originally posted by krisblaze
People don't seem to understand that even in a CIS-less fight, the Flash would do his utmost to win, as they're fighting at full capacity per the forum rules :/

CIS off would just enable stuff like Flash smearing Surfer on the boardwalk like a bug...

So you admit Surfer beats Superman 10/10?

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I take it back. If it's CIS less then the Flashes wins.

No.