Nice argument. Death battle also said Rainbow Dash would beat Starscream. And Link would beat Cloud. And a bunch of other shit that is completely retarded. Deathbattle = Slight entertainment. It is realistic in no way, shape or form. Not to mention they claimed Kid goku only got 568 times stronger from Dragon Ball to the end of DBZ. And that Goku can't planet or moon bust. Which Roshi could. They are stupid. End of story.
Yeah, Goku eats Superman.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Nice argument. Death battle also said Rainbow Dash would beat Starscream. And Link would beat Cloud. And a bunch of other shit that is completely retarded. Deathbattle = Slight entertainment. It is realistic in no way, shape or form. Not to mention they claimed Kid goku only got 568 times stronger from Dragon Ball to the end of DBZ. And that Goku can't planet or moon bust. Which Roshi could. They are stupid. End of story.Yeah, Goku eats Superman.
Enter Multiversal characters who have Faster than Time speed.
Originally posted by carver9I'll bite. With these average showings, how strong and fast is Supes then? Who I'm comics is he on par with?
His average showings, not his low ends. Goku on average is a monster. Superman is a monster as well but I don't think he is on average, portrayed as powerful as Goku.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Nice argument. Death battle also said Rainbow Dash would beat Starscream. And Link would beat Cloud. And a bunch of other shit that is completely retarded. Deathbattle = Slight entertainment. It is realistic in no way, shape or form. Not to mention they claimed Kid goku only got 568 times stronger from Dragon Ball to the end of DBZ. And that Goku can't planet or moon bust. Which Roshi could. They are stupid. End of story.Yeah, Goku eats Superman.
death battle never said goku couldnt bust a planet from what i remember
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Nice argument. Death battle also said Rainbow Dash would beat Starscream. And Link would beat Cloud. And a bunch of other shit that is completely retarded. Deathbattle = Slight entertainment. It is realistic in no way, shape or form. Not to mention they claimed Kid goku only got 568 times stronger from Dragon Ball to the end of DBZ. And that Goku can't planet or moon bust. Which Roshi could. They are stupid. End of story.Yeah, Goku eats Superman.
Link would beat Cloud, and their argument to suggest it was nothing short of reasonable, whether one agrees with it or not.
Anyways, from what I remember, DEATH BATTLE went on to say their calculations were off, but they also admitted at the time that they were incredibly vague anyways. That said, their main arguement was "the difference in their character". Essentially, "Both characters are, in their own way, limitless. The difference is that while Goku can break any limit, Superman has no limits to begin with."
Originally posted by Sacred 117
Link would beat Cloud, and their argument to suggest it was nothing short of reasonable, whether one agrees with it or not.Anyways, from what I remember, DEATH BATTLE went on to say their calculations were off, but they also admitted at the time that they were incredibly vague anyways. That said, their main arguement was "the difference in their character". Essentially, "Both characters are, in their own way, limitless. The difference is that while Goku can break any limit, Superman has no limits to begin with."
Link couldn't catch Cloud in the first place. Plus, Cloud can take Sephiroth throwing meteors on him. I'm pretty sure he can deal with anything Link could throw at him.
They did say that. Which proves immediately that their results were flawed, biased and inaccurate in the first place.
However, the statement they made was also inaccurate. They based the entire death battle on one, off-topic statement that suggests Superman could beat anyone. Which is untrue. He could not defeat MOM. He could not defeat TOAA. He could not defeat The Spectre. He could not defeat The Phoenix. He could not defeat Galactus. He could not defeat The Living Tribunal. He could not defeat Odin. He could not defeat Elaine Belloc. He could not defeat The Alien Entity. He could not defeat Nemesis. He could not defeat The Fulcrum. He could not defeat The Great Evil Beast. He could not defeat Odin. He could not defeat The Celestials. He could not defeat Thanos.
My point is that Superman has a VERY prominent limit. He is around Thor in terms of sheer power, and Superman Prime one million is outdone in destructive power by Rune King Thor. However, the thought Robot Superman is around equal to Rune King Thor.
The untrue assumption that Superman is unbeatable is completely ludicrous, as he has been killed, and lost many fights before.
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The strongest Goku crushes the strongest Superman. thumbsup
Originally posted by chasedown
death battle never said goku couldnt bust a planet from what i remember
This is based on the misconception, that because Goku couldn't stop Kid Buu's planet buster, he couldn't bust a planet himself. This is completely ludicrous, as he was clearly weaker than Kid Buu in the first place. Not to mention that the blast also killed Mystic Gohan immediately, who was constantly in full power due to his Mystic power, and much stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
Either way, my point is that SSJ1 Namek Goku > Full power Frieza >>> Final form Frieza > Base Goku > Third form Frieza > Second Form Frieza > First form Frieza > Planet busting.
That's in terms of firepower, btw. Base Goku > Planet busting. That's on Namek.
Originally posted by Spawningpool
Explain on how goku could beat superman please finish this if you can
"Destroying part of a dead solar system with a sneeze =/= Destroying "all of creation" with a shout, which is Buuhan tier. Buuhan < Base Vegetto <<<<<< Super Vegetto < SSJG Goku."
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Link couldn't catch Cloud in the first place. Plus, Cloud can take Sephiroth throwing meteors on him. I'm pretty sure he can deal with anything Link could throw at him.
He could potentially outrun him, actually...
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...but it's not as if he has to.
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Besides, the fact that Link and Cloud can both outdo the force of a meteor, withstanding one isn't exactly impressive on either of their parts.
There's a lot more I could say about both of them, but this is hardly the place for that.
They did say that. Which proves immediately that their results were flawed, biased and inaccurate in the first place.However, the statement they made was also inaccurate. They based the entire death battle on one, off-topic statement that suggests Superman could beat anyone. Which is untrue. He could not defeat MOM. He could not defeat TOAA. He could not defeat The Spectre. He could not defeat The Phoenix. He could not defeat Galactus. He could not defeat The Living Tribunal. He could not defeat Odin. He could not defeat Elaine Belloc. He could not defeat The Alien Entity. He could not defeat Nemesis. He could not defeat The Fulcrum. He could not defeat The Great Evil Beast. He could not defeat Odin. He could not defeat The Celestials. He could not defeat Thanos.
My point is that Superman has a VERY prominent limit. He is around Thor in terms of sheer power, and Superman Prime one million is outdone in destructive power by Rune King Thor. However, the thought Robot Superman is around equal to Rune King Thor.
The untrue assumption that Superman is unbeatable is completely ludicrous, as he has been killed, and lost many fights before.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but that's actually a rather fair point (aside from how far above Goku AND Superman most of them happen to be). If this shit keeps up, they'll eventually end up redoing the battle with new stips, but I could honestly care less about that (AND this).
I love Goku just as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to vehemently raise arms just because he loses a hypothetical battle to fiction's most notoriously broken superhero.
Originally posted by chasedown
i gotta watch death battle again to checkcloud isnt really a speedster from what ive seen anyway so i think link and him are around the same there
can the strongest goku life a quintillion tons even tho he had troubke lifting 40?
Don't get me started with Death Battle logic.
Their Ryu vs Strider ommited a ton of games for Ryu, while dipping into comics and everything else for Strider.
Ryu could total a tank with a bow and arrow, and somehow Strider has a strength advantage. 🙄
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Link couldn't catch Cloud in the first place. Plus, Cloud can take Sephiroth throwing meteors on him. I'm pretty sure he can deal with anything Link could throw at him.They did say that. Which proves immediately that their results were flawed, biased and inaccurate in the first place.
However, the statement they made was also inaccurate. They based the entire death battle on one, off-topic statement that suggests Superman could beat anyone. Which is untrue. He could not defeat MOM. He could not defeat TOAA. He could not defeat The Spectre. He could not defeat The Phoenix. He could not defeat Galactus. He could not defeat The Living Tribunal. He could not defeat Odin. He could not defeat Elaine Belloc. He could not defeat The Alien Entity. He could not defeat Nemesis. He could not defeat The Fulcrum. He could not defeat The Great Evil Beast. He could not defeat Odin. He could not defeat The Celestials. He could not defeat Thanos.
My point is that Superman has a VERY prominent limit. He is around Thor in terms of sheer power, and Superman Prime one million is outdone in destructive power by Rune King Thor. However, the thought Robot Superman is around equal to Rune King Thor.
The untrue assumption that Superman is unbeatable is completely ludicrous, as he has been killed, and lost many fights before.
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The strongest Goku crushes the strongest Superman. thumbsup
This is based on the misconception, that because Goku couldn't stop Kid Buu's planet buster, he couldn't bust a planet himself. This is completely ludicrous, as he was clearly weaker than Kid Buu in the first place. Not to mention that the blast also killed Mystic Gohan immediately, who was constantly in full power due to his Mystic power, and much stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
Either way, my point is that SSJ1 Namek Goku > Full power Frieza >>> Final form Frieza > Base Goku > Third form Frieza > Second Form Frieza > First form Frieza > Planet busting.
That's in terms of firepower, btw. Base Goku > Planet busting. That's on Namek.
"Destroying part of a dead solar system with a sneeze =/= Destroying "all of creation" with a shout, which is Buuhan tier. Buuhan < Base Vegetto <<<<<< Super Vegetto < SSJG Goku."
Originally posted by Sacred 117
Link would beat Cloud, and their argument to suggest it was nothing short of reasonable, whether one agrees with it or not.Anyways, from what I remember, DEATH BATTLE went on to say their calculations were off, but they also admitted at the time that they were incredibly vague anyways. That said, their main arguement was "the difference in their character". Essentially, "Both characters are, in their own way, limitless. The difference is that while Goku can break any limit, Superman has no limits to begin with."
It wasn't reasonable since they messed up the fts for both of the characters. Forgot about the context of the showings for each.
Originally posted by carver9
It wasn't reasonable since they messed up the fts for both of the characters. Forgot about the context of the showings for each.
They also skipped at least half of the information on Link, which would have served to horribly lopside the battle, but they still reached a logical conclusion, despite that.
If you want to challenge this, there's a thread in All VS just for it.
