superman vs goku

Started by chasedown24 pages

Originally posted by carver9
So he has no limits?

you just proved my point thats only one incarnation of superman

Originally posted by Sacred 117
They also skipped at least half of the information on Link, which would have served to horribly lopside the battle, but they still reached a logical conclusion, despite that.

If you want to challenge this, there's a thread in All VS just for it.

We are talking about it here though. They got all of Goku and Superman fts wrong.

Originally posted by chasedown
you just proved my point thats only one incarnation of superman

Hhhmmmm...

Originally posted by chasedown
you just proved my point thats only one incarnation of superman

Kid Goku would have laid waste to that armor.

Originally posted by carver9
We are talking about it here though. They got all of Goku and Superman fts wrong.

Oh. You and I are talking about two different things then. My initial comment was in reference to Link vs Cloud. haermm

@Carv
"I'll bite. With these average showings, how strong and fast is Supes then? Who I'm comics is he on par with?"

Manga too.

Originally posted by BloodRain
@Carv
"I'll bite. With these average showings, how strong and fast is Supes then? Who I'm comics is he on par with?"

Manga too.


Superman strength limit is unknown and for speed I do not know but I so know he can jump to other planets

Originally posted by carver9
Hhhmmmm...

point and case there is a superman who lifted over 7 quintillion tons yet you disregard that

or how bout the superman that survived an explosion that was as powerful as more than one supernova

or the superman that moved a planet or the superman that split the moon in half
or the superman that sneezed a solar system away

also the fact that superman is admittedly always holding back against those weaker then him

also lex luthors exo suit was built specifically to fight superman of course it would be able to hurt him.

Originally posted by chasedown
point and case there is a superman who lifted over 7 quintillion tons yet you disregard that

or how bout the superman that survived an explosion that was as powerful as more than one supernova

or the superman that moved a planet or the superman that split the moon in half
or the superman that sneezed a solar system away

also the fact that superman is admittedly always holding back against those weaker then him

also lex luthors exo suit was built specifically to fight superman of course it would be able to hurt him.

Never disregarded his strength fts, I'm talking about his average showings.

Show me the Super Nova scan? Are you talking about when the YELLOW sun exploded? Ya know, his power source.

Show me him moving a planet and show the moon splitting ft.

New Superman is more ruthless than DCU Supes. Doesn't hold back near as much as his previous self.

It was never said it was built for Superman. Where did you get that from?

Originally posted by carver9
Never disregarded his strength fts, I'm talking about his average showings.

Show me the Super Nova scan? Are you talking about when the YELLOW sun exploded? Ya know, his power source.

Show me him moving a planet and show the moon splitting ft.

New Superman is more ruthless than DCU Supes. Doesn't hold back near as much as his previous self.

It was never said it was built for Superman. Where did you get that from?

average showings dont matter thats my point. especially in a thread where the maker said all feats can be used

superman and martian manhunter moved a planet sized ship i forgot the comic

regardless can goku survive a sun exploding idts

superman vs the elite. youll see the supernova feat

Originally posted by chasedown
average showings dont matter thats my point. especially in a thread where the maker said all feats can be used

superman and martian manhunter moved a planet sized ship i forgot the comic

regardless can goku survive a sun exploding idts

superman vs the elite. youll see the supernova feat

On average, Goku stomps.

Sigh*...moments before moving Brainiac ship, Superman sun amped to get more powerful.

The super Nova that exploded was done via a yellow sun. The same stuff that powers Superman. That's like asking me if Hal can survive a blast of his own power. Do you not understand this? Then, he wasn't even right on the blast so we don't know how much hit/amped him.

Originally posted by carver9
On average, Goku stomps.

Sigh*...moments before moving Brainiac ship, Superman sun amped to get more powerful.

The super Nova that exploded was done via a yellow sun. The same stuff that powers Superman. That's like asking me if Hal can survive a blast of his own power. Do you not understand this? Then, he wasn't even right on the blast so we don't know how much hit/amped him.

f**k the on average crap the thread maker said all feats from both characters can be used try again....goku only wins in your fan boy world

Originally posted by chasedown
f**k the on average crap the thread maker said all feats from both characters can be used try again....goku only wins in your fan boy world

I know more about both characters than most here. Nothing but high fts, I agree, nothing short of LT is stopping Hulk and Superman but looking at their portrayal battle wise, giving it to Goku.

supes has shown more gthan goku has...... everything about bout goku pertaining to supes is based of of pure speculation and no concrete evidence .......again until someone shows me goku lifting 7 quintillion tons he wont beat superman

Originally posted by chasedown
supes has shown more gthan goku has...... everything about bout goku pertaining to supes is based of of pure speculation and no concrete evidence .......again until someone shows me goku lifting 7 quintillion tons he wont beat superman

Why would Goku lift 7 quintillion tons?

What's pure speculation?

Originally posted by carver9
Why would Goku lift 7 quintillion tons?

What's pure speculation?

its a strength feat what do you mean... why would goku want to blow up a planet lol

A Sun Eater collapsed on Superman in Time and Time Again. That's at least the equivalent of surviving a super nova right there.

Carv, the question?

Originally posted by chasedown
average showings dont matter thats my point.

I never understood the mentality behind this. Yeah, Superman can beat a lot of characters if you ignore everything except the top percentage of his feats, especially if you use different versions of Superman. But that's a fan fiction construction and not how he's actually written.

I don't know. It seems that versus forums have degraded to where it's more about advocating certain characters than leading a constructive debate. That's why you have people cherry-picking feats, ignoring counter-evidence and making excuses rather than weighing arguments by their strengths and weaknesses.

By shit like "averages" and "consistent showings" we focus on the higher end of the spectrum without taking in obvious as **** outliers

If we were to go with actual consistent showings and try to get a mean, then we'd only get low end superhuman garbage for character supposed to be massively hypersonic planet busters

This is the kind of shit which makes me sneer in contempt at people who do the "average showings only!" shit

Not to mention it sounds hypocritical as **** when for most anime/manga series, a few, or even single feat/calc is considered to be 'definitive' of said verse's capability, yet, for some reason, other mediums don't