Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Did you really count it?@missmith, two jedi two sith equals balance. When Yoda died, Vader brought balance by destroying Sidious, because Yoda was the cause of the imbalance.
Remind us how that makes Sidious' dark side strength "unmatched"? I know you were trying to weasel in the "Sidious caused imbalance versus the entire jedi order" argument. No matter, amusing enough.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Remind us how that makes Sidious' dark side strength "unmatched"? I know you were trying to weasel in the "Sidious caused imbalance versus the entire jedi order" argument. No matter, amusing enough.
Lmao, no, no. Don't try that.
You entered a discussion regarding what bringing balance meant, so how about you remind us what it is. No one mentioned the number of force users other than you.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Lmao, no, no. Don't try that.You entered a discussion regarding what bringing balance meant, so how about you remind us what it is. No one mentioned the number of force users other than you.
You said Sidous' dark side strength was so unmatched, that Vader killing him brought balance to the force. Your premise does not match your conclusion. Please continue with your "I'll post last dag nabit!" method.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Again, what am I bothered about? You're inability to prove Vitiate comes close to Sidious? I'm actually glad you can't. My post wasn't even directed at you. I was just explaining why I view Sidious as being vastly superior to Vitiate, and that living long has nothing to do with Sidious being solidly above him, considering his natural potency with the dark side, which I explained in great detail. You took it upon yourself to respond to a post that wasn't directed at you, and then got mad, and then accused me of being a dick after insulting me. Basically, Neph, you're a cry baby.I did explain a difference. Go back over my posts if you're that interested.
Yes, I meant post. I went over and edited my posts.
Me being "condescending" isn't nearly as bad as asking stupid questions that you should know the answer to if you read my post. If you didn't, then you have absolutely no business replying to it or asking questions about it. No Malgus in way compares to Sidious or the command Sidious has over the dark side, no sith has. That's a fact, but, by all means, carry on complaining about it.
I would throw you the same love I do Carthage if you'd stop crying over the same exact things you're guilty of, and man up and debate instead of shying off and pretending to troll after getting your ass handed to. If I got offended and felt Sidious position as being the ultimate sith, I wouldn't be as generous as I am. I don't throw up Sidious speed do I? No, because I don't feel I need to. Although if I did, you'd be unable to refute it. And if you think you can, we could give it a shot. Choice is yours.
You're clearly very defensive about this subject. It cuts you deeply that people don't accept Sidious unquestioningly like you do and say that Vitiate *gasp* rivals him somewhat. You were obviously very offended by my simple question, hence why you're jumping down my throat so much. Me stating you were being a dick wasn't me crying over anything. I was just stating a fact, for the record.
Unlikely to see anything new bro. Heard it ALL before.
My stupidity shouldn't offend you. I'd think siring Carthage would make you more tolerant than that.
And I see you're back to just yelling about how great Sidious is again. YOu know I wasn't comparing Malgus and Sidious at all, I was just hoping you'd maybe say something like "Yeah Neph, Malgus is pretty powerful too. Shame he was so ****ing ugly amirite! Hahaha!"
Dude, I'm not going to debate you when you so clearly have it out for me. I tried to talk to you regardless remember and you just threw old debates back in my face again. If you could stop being such a sourpuss I'd be happy to argue shit with you but you're soooo pissed off and bitter all the time it's totally not worth it. Look at how a small comment turned into a huge arguement here? I'd just prefer to not.
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TBF I also took the effort to put a secret code into my reply, so maybe I am super bothered/bored.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
@missmith, two jedi two sith equals balance. When Yoda died, Vader brought balance by destroying Sidious, because Yoda was the cause of the imbalance.
Didn't Lucas say that the darkside was the imbalance and that by destroying that, Anakin brought balance?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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Originally posted by psmith81992
You said Sidous' dark side strength was so unmatched, that Vader killing him brought balance to the force. Your premise does not match your conclusion. Please continue with your "I'll post last dag nabit!" method.
Really, explain how it doesn't. Regardless that's not all what was said.
Furthermore, that's not why you entered the debate. You attempted to teach me what bringing balance was about.
Originally posted by Nephthys
TBF I also took the effort to put a secret code into my reply, so maybe I am super bothered/bored.Didn't Lucas say that the darkside was the imbalance and that by destroying that, Anakin brought balance?
I don't remember him saying that, but yes he did say the dark side was the imbalance and the corrupt side (something along those lines), and also said Sidious was the source of all evil. If Palpatine's death was what caused balance, then that would imply he was the main source of it's power at the time, which is backed by The New Essential Guide to Characters, which states Anakin fulfilled the prophecy by destroying Sidious.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You're clearly very defensive about this subject. It cuts you deeply that people don't accept Sidious unquestioningly like you do and say that Vitiate *gasp* rivals him somewhat. You were obviously very offended by my simple question, hence why you're jumping down my throat so much. Me stating you were being a dick wasn't me crying over anything. I was just stating a fact, for the record.Unlikely to see anything new bro. Heard it ALL before.
My stupidity shouldn't offend you. I'd think siring Carthage would make you more tolerant than that.
And I see you're back to just yelling about how great Sidious is again. YOu know I wasn't comparing Malgus and Sidious at all, I was just hoping you'd maybe say something like "Yeah Neph, Malgus is pretty powerful too. Shame he was so ****ing ugly amirite! Hahaha!"
Dude, I'm not going to debate you when you so clearly have it out for me. I tried to talk to you regardless remember and you just threw old debates back in my face again. If you could stop being such a sourpuss I'd be happy to argue shit with you but you're soooo pissed off and bitter all the time it's totally not worth it. Look at how a small comment turned into a huge arguement here? I'd just prefer to not.
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I like debating SW, hence why I even post here, unlike missmith, who posts here to try to convince people here of his unmatched manliness.
You say I'm bothered, yet you're the one complaining about me bringing up Sidious.
At least Cart debates instead of whining. All you do is cry and whine without even attempting to refute. You are bothered by Sidious's superiority over DS enhanced Vitiate.
We can end the bickering and compare their abilities and accolades, I promise you Vitiate won't come close in a comparison. In fact, I will use ROTS just to make it fair. Do you accept, or do you want to keep crying?
Ant, I shortened my post. Does this mean I'm less bothered?
I don't know, it seems the only one crying is you with your essays and grade school logic. It would be amusing if it wasn't so sad.
I called you out on a claim you made, and now you want to end it?
Originally posted by psmith81992
I don't know, it seems the only one crying is you with your essays and grade school logic. It would be amusing if it wasn't so sad.No no, you asked me to prove a negative when your premise didn't match your conclusion and you were unable to prove it, so it was desperation. There's nothing to end because you don't know what you're saying.
If my premise doesn't match my conclusion then you should be able to explain how if you knew what they were. I didn't attempt to prove anything to you. What was my premise and what was my conclusion? I don't even think you understand my argument considering you misinterpreted it.
Nobody understands your argument.. Lets dumb this down so even you could attempt to understand.
Premise:
Palpatine's potency with the dark side was unmatched
Conclusion:
hence why his death brought balance to the force
The line is Anakin "brought balance to the Force by eliminating the greatest evil the galaxy had ever known."
Beefy, you know that "balance" has nothing to do with the number of Jedi or Sith.
Originally posted by Unbowed
As for the OP, yes, he could be surpassed. As the ultimate champion of the Dark Side and Luke Skywalker's counterpart and ally against Abeloth, Krayt surpassed him.
...Pretty sure Palpatine was long dead by the time of that grudge match, so what's your point?
Originally posted by Unbowed
That's what that whole novel was all about.
50 points if you can cite the passage of the book that proves this.