Originally posted by ILS
Telepathy which he never uses combatively. Especially not on any telepath on Maul's level.Immovability which would hold little relevance in a fight.
Alter environment.. really?
Vader isn't putting Maul in stasis, lol, that's ludicrous. He hasn't done that to anyone as powerful as Maul.
Barrier which is useless.
He's never used tutaminis on a lightsaber blade, and I doubt this would have much relevance anyway.
Force Scream has never come into play in a duel for Vader - ever.
Beast... control... so relevant.
So really, how is any of that relevant to a dueling scenario, in the grand scheme of things?
I was just listing his other powers, not saying that he'd win against Maul by using them, and yes, he did use Tutaminis or Force Deflection against a lightsaber blade in Dark Lord. Force Scream can be used by Vader in combat if he's enraged, and he shook the foundations of a building with it, but yes, in many cases it wouldn't be relevant to a duel.
Originally posted by ILS
He didn't do anything of the sort in Dark Lord. All that was said was that the lightsaber might have gotten past his guard, but in that scenario all it did was glance off the back of his hand, leaving a superficial mark and smoke on his glove.
So what? He still deflected/absorbed it:
The blade might have gotten past Vader's guard, but instead it glanced off the black of his upraised left hand, smoke curling from the black glove.
-- Dark Lord: The Rise Of Darth Vader
I don't see how the smoke appearing on his glove changes this, and I don't see anything in the quote suggesting that he wasn't successful in doing so, seeing how he wasn't damaged by the lightsaber blow.
He didn't absorb anything, or do anything with the Force. The lightsaber scraped his glove.
So Vader "solidly" defeats Maul because people wishfully assume that he can just pin him to a wall or slam Maul into his lightsaber, and because Vader's glove is good at receiving lightsaber blows?
Awesome stuff KMC.
Originally posted by ILS
He didn't absorb anything, or do anything with the Force. The lightsaber scraped his glove.So Vader "solidly" defeats Maul because people wishfully assume that he can just pin him to a wall or slam Maul into his lightsaber, and because Vader's glove is good at receiving lightsaber blows?
Awesome stuff KMC.
So Vader's glove was simply durable enough to tank the blow? That is nonsense. His hand would still have been severed if he hadn't used the Force, and nothing in the quote says that his glove was scraped. It was a half-successful deflection at worst,but this doesn't change that he used the Force to deflect the blow. Not only that, but I never argued that Vader would win "solidly" (which I guess it means winning with ease), nor that he could dominate Maul with the Force, though a case could be probably made for that. I said that he wins in a good fight.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
So Vader's glove was simply durable enough to tank the blow? That is nonsense. His hand would still have been severed if he hadn't used the Force, and nothing in the quote says that his glove was scraped. It was a half-successful deflection at worst,but this doesn't change that he used the Force to deflect the blow. Not only that, but I never argued that Vader would win "solidly" (which I guess it means winning with ease), nor that he could dominate Maul with the Force, though a case could be probably made for that. I said that he wins in a good fight.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
So Vader's glove was simply durable enough to tank the blow? That is nonsense. His hand would still have been severed if he hadn't used the Force, and nothing in the quote says that his glove was scraped. It was a half-successful deflection at worst,but this doesn't change that he used the Force to deflect the blow. Not only that, but I never argued that Vader would win "solidly" (which I guess it means winning with ease), nor that he could dominate Maul with the Force, though a case could be probably made for that. I said that he wins in a good fight.
Did you read the glove of darth vader ? One of his glove is indestructible.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
Which one? The left one or the right one? Regardless, I recall that he had both his hands severed on several occasions, so I don't see how it is indestructible.
Ah sorry, I read that long time ago, I checked it in wikia it says both of his gloves are made from mandalorian iron.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Glove_of_Darth_Vader
Anyway, it should be right hand, the same hand that Luke sliced at Death Star, then some people make fake prophecies about that indestructible glove and they tried to find it bla bla...
Originally posted by Marco1907
Ah sorry, I read that long time ago, I checked it in wikia it says both of his gloves are made from mandalorian iron.
Vader absorbed /deflected the lightsaber with his left hand, and your link states that only the right glove was indestructible.
