Originally posted by WildBantha88
Sure. in terms of lightsaber skill, Maul is defiantly going to be a challenge for Vader, and he is over all faster than Darth Vader is. But Darth Vader sweeps all the other edges.In terms of physical strength, maul is pretty strong, but Vader can snap a persons neck with one hand while holding them in the air.
In terms of physical endurance, Maul can take a hell of a lot of pain as he has tanked nightsister lightning and even worse and kept on fighting, but there is really no contest there, Darth Vader is a walking tank.
In terms of intelligence on the battle field, Maul has improved after getting cut in half but he still is hampered by pride (a small and seemingly insignificant factor but a factor none the less) Vader is hampered by no such pride.
In terms of the Force you already admitted that Maul isn't on Vaders level but if you indulge me I will argue that Maul cant even compete.
So now that I have stated my claims, is this ganna turn into a debate? 🙂
Dude.. in terms of physical strength holding someone up by one arm and snapping their neck is something that should be stick-standard for both Maul and Vader. Maul has shattered spines with his strikes, is capable of tearing people apart limb from limb, has ripped the skull of a Varactyl clean off it's neck in a single jerk (and this was without even augmenting his Force strength), has kicked into a persons torso, broken through durasteel armor and smashed metal droids, shattered durasteel binders ect. Maul and Vader are highly comparable in terms of physical strength.
Vader being mostly cybernetic and having an armored suit is what makes him more durable than Maul. He has resistance to explosives, lightning ect due his armor and insulation, and he has redundant limbs which he doesn't need to survive. So yeah, he's more durable. Not really the most important factor though.
Maul doesn't have an issue with pride. Sure, he's overconfident as ****, but he doesn't play with his food unless it's something like Kenobi, who's a plot protected character and someone Maul wants to suffer rather than die. And in terms of battle tactics, being able to throw away and replace fighting strategies on the fly and casually alter the location of a fight should put him on par with or beyond Vader. Then you factor in tactical feats like turning a group of literal spear chuckers into a legitimate military militia in an afternoon, stalemating the CIS' full might without full military preparation, capturing Obi-Wan Kenobi twice, as well as Dooku and Grievous, ect, it becomes even more clear that Maul's intelligence isn't in question.
How exactly can't Maul compete in the Force? Sure, he's a couple of tiers behind Vader, but he isn't entirely defenceless. When Maul was 15 he nearly dropped an entire barracks to the ground with a Force scream, and at this time it was noted that his power was steadily increasing, and then during TCW it was further noted that he has received a power increase. He has feats like pulling a shuttle off a cliff whilst injured, ragdolling Kenobi repeatedly which is only something Dooku has replicated to my knowledge, collapsing a huge amount of debris, caving in a massive tunnel in the process, blowing dozens of droids and soldiers away on two occasions, ect. He's not entirely outmatched by Vader and there's no evidence to suggest Vader could dominate Maul or defeat him with TK. Any telekinetic throw he could land would more or less be recoverable from for Maul, due to his blunt force durability and Dark Rage proficiency.
I would call this a debate, yes 😛
