So i heard this joke..,.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Breaking down social barriers only works if you understand what social barriers exist. For example "Everyone should be equal" is a nice sentiment, but doesn't lead to constructive action. Similarly "All Lives Matter" almost everyone agrees with at face value, but it doesn't address the problem (i.e. that young black men are seen as disposable). So discussing what social barriers exist, and how each of them can be torn down, is an important aspect of thriving for equality.

Well, you just said it again, the power structure that serves the few...that's what "elites" means. Who are these people that the power structure serves? For example, the fact that police in the US don't stop white people as much as black people benefits white people in the US...all of them, not just a shadowy few.

How am I forcing my views on other people though? By stating them?

Obviously you think your view regarding all jokes being fine is correct, that's why you choose to stand up for it, it's no different in that way from my view and me thinking that it mine is correct.

Yes, yes, yes, I know, but I was addressing the system, not the people. I'm not delving into conspiracy theories here, mate, it's not my style, I'm afraid. I can't name names or point out who the elite are, other than knowing that they're rich and mostly white. And sorry, I'm not getting into American race politics any more. I find your examples too limited, they're too tailored to your own benefit.

"Obviously you think your view regarding all jokes being fine is correct" — "your view regarding all jokes being fine"

Sorry, I'm leaving this debate now, you're clearly not comprehending half of what I'm saying so it's... pointless, really.

Well done. You won again.

Just as I thought it was getting interesting... shame, really.

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I want to lighten things up by posting a joke about my penis. But its too long. 😄

Originally posted by riv6672
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I want to lighten things up by posting a joke about my penis. But its too long. 😄

I came up with a joke for my penis, too. It's quite short, and it seems to make girls laugh.

Originally posted by Scribble
"Young black men are seen as disposable" is not a statement I can relate to; I see the issues in America, and they are disgusting. Black lives and their equal worth is something they need to — and are — addressing. In England, race relations are at an all-time high (again context) and whilst the surge of UKIP for a while made people think we still had a huge race problem, the fact is that Black people are well-integrated into the culture. You're more likely to be stopped by police just for being young than you are Black or any other race. It's like America is the focus of the world right now. But it's not the world I live in, nor you, so why is this the focus of our perception of race relations?

Yes, yes, yes, I know, but I was addressing the system, not the people. I'm not delving into conspiracy theories here, mate, it's not my style, I'm afraid. I can't name names or point out who the elite are, other than knowing that they're rich and mostly white. And sorry, I'm not getting into American race politics any more. I find your examples too limited, they're too tailored to your own benefit.

"Obviously you think your view regarding all jokes being fine is correct" — "your view regarding all jokes being fine"

Sorry, I'm leaving this debate now, you're clearly not comprehending half of what I'm saying so it's... pointless, really.

Well done. You won again.

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And fair enough that summary may have been a simplification, however it remains that my conviction regarding the topic is seen by you as arrogance, while your own conviction is perfectly fine.

That's a bit childish, innit?

Originally posted by Bardock42

How am I forcing my views on other people though? By stating them?

Also, the fact that you seem to believe you're helping other people from making mistakes by debating them, rather than simply disagreeing with them and trying to understand their point of view and you trying to make them understand yours. You know, an actual discussion and that, not educating people on the Commandments of Bardock42.

My point is, I understand why many people on here (mostly in the past, I guess) feel like you force your opinions on them. I know Scribble is not the first person who has had this issue with you and I've told you this many times.

It's been like this for as long as I remember, I don't expect you to change your posting style or general pomposity, but I do find it strange you keep being genuinely surprised by people get a feeling you're forcing your opinions on them.

Originally posted by Slay
Although I personally don't think you're actually trying to force your views on other people, the way in which you state your opinion does at times feel like you're stating absolute fact. This may have to do with English not being your first language though.

Also, the fact that you seem to believe you're helping other people from making mistakes by debating them, rather than simply disagreeing with them and trying to understand their point of view and you trying to make them understand yours. You know, an actual discussion and that, not educating people on the Commandments of Bardock42.

My point is, I understand why many people on here (mostly in the past, I guess) feel like you force your opinions on them. I know Scribble is not the first person who has had this issue with you and I've told you this many times.

It's been like this for as long as I remember, I don't expect you to change your posting style or general pomposity, but I do find it strange you keep being genuinely surprised by people get a feeling you're forcing your opinions on them.

It is odd to me, because I don't perceive my posting style to be more absolute than that of other posters. If anything I often add "in my opinion" or similar qualifiers to my posts. It's true that I am convinced of my beliefs, but I am not incapable of changing my views. Scribble, for example, did not state his opinion any less forcefully than me.

The thing is, it does happen from time to time, some people think I am particular pompous or arrogant, but it's really only a handful people. You, PVS, Scribble...it's surprising, because it doesn't happen that often, yet I don't write differently to the people that perceive it as such.

Coincidentally, I also think my posting style has changed significantly since I first joined KMC. Looking at posts from years ago, I had a much more aggressive style.

Originally posted by Quincy

I mean, Esau even prefaced his joke with "a black guy told me this." But maybe Esau is black? I don't know

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No, I'm not black. Asian actually...so yeah I've copped enough "racist" jokes against my own heritage growing up. And maybe I have thicker skin or a morbid sense of humour because I'll laugh at the funny context of the joke rather than the racial or bigoted aspect of the material.

But yeah, the rape joke was in poor taste but it was also a case of "you had to be there" when my black friend told me it.

I was in deep conversation with this girl I had just met & literally knew nothing about her when my Aboriginal friend walked up to us & whispered the joke loud enough for both the woman I was with to hear it.
My first response was "Oh Christ No!!!! He just said that to a woman, a complete stranger!"
Then she burst out laughing & the both of them spent the afternoon exchanging both racist & sexist jokes for the rest of the day.
I aslo have a gay friend who walks around wearing a "Black Eye For The Queer Guy" t-shirt becos he finds it funny...but if I wore that same shirt, I'd be labeled a homophobe.

So understand I'm not defending a tasteless joke...I simply saw the humour implied & laugh at that.

A Pollack walks into a bar.

Originally posted by Bardock42
They aren't contradictory though. Because it's not "don't make jokes" but "consider not making jokes at the expense of oppressed groups" it's not "white males can be attacked" it's "jokes about a dominant group that's not oppressed aren't really problematic".

Should you make jokes at the expense of white people? Probably not, it's not nice really. Is it the same as making jokes at the expense of black people? No, it isn't, they are completely different scenarios.

See, this is my problem with society becoming too politically correct.
I personally didn't offend you but you're making yourself out to be the moral spokesman for every other minority group in society that you perceive may have been offended.

The fact that I haven't been banned speaks highly of how open-minded & tolerant members of KMC are. Half the members who've posted jokes in this thread would've been banned a long time ago for their racist & anti-Semitic remarks.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And fair enough that summary may have been a simplification, however it remains that my conviction regarding the topic is seen by you as arrogance, while your own conviction is perfectly fine.

That's a bit childish, innit?

Like I say, I'm done here; you went from debating like a human to pseudo-intellectual shit-throwing (see: your last post), so I stepped out of it. I don't debate with people who turn to brash generalisations and word-twisting halfway through a debate, because it's pointless. I'd rather debate with someone who kept posting back "NO U," because at minimum they aren't making any pretence of pretending to read my posts before posting whatever regurgitated I Am The Law And I Am Right shit they were going on about before (see: your last post).

And yeah, what Slay and Esau said, too. Couldn't put it any better right now, other than adding how disappointing it was to be having a genuinely interesting debate about serious issues, then being slammed in the face by the hard cock of knee-jerk insecure generalisations, courtesy of someone I consider to be pretty smart. We were on a good track; you blew it by being so personal in your attacks, so determined you were to show just how bloody right you were. We were debating as equals, I thought. You clearly just had intellectual victory and ideological domination on your mind. Figures, I guess; my fault for thinking better of you.

Anyway, next time, let's see if we can keep the thread up and avoid any sidetracks into attacking each other's personal integrity. That's not debating; that's... well, maybe it is debating. It's just very childish debating.

See you in class.

guys jokes are jokes

Originally posted by Scribble
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I came up with a joke for my penis, too. It's quite short, and it seems to make girls laugh.

U had a joke about a vagina, too. But no guys here would get it. 😉

Is it have to do with fish?

Originally posted by riv6672
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U had a joke about a vagina, too. But no guys here would get it. 😉

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Bardock walks into a bar. He gets all preachy about how booze is bad. He gets tossed into the dumpster in the alley while every one else has a good time.

The Joke. Bardock is to much of a dork to go to a bar.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Bardock walks into a bar. He gets all preachy about how booze is bad. He gets tossed into the dumpster in the alley while every one else has a good time.

The Joke. Bardock is to much of a dork to go to a bar. [/B]

I wouldn't mind getting my salad tossed anyday.
Hell even in a dumpster!

If you aint woke up behind the bar near the dumpster then you haven't ever really partied.

a italian, aussie and mexican woman by the name of rosetta walk into a bar

the bartenderf says "this is a joke isnt it"

whats the diffrence between a rabbi and a priest
one bends down for coins
the other bends over little boys