Originally posted by Zack M
It might not have sold as well as IM 1 or 2, but it pretty much beats every other MCU film. In general, DCEU is doing fairly well, box office wise.
BvS was still a massive disappointment at the box office.
If you don't think WB are crying over that one, then you're kidding yourself.
Also what do you mean it beats every other MCU film? Civil War, Iron Man 3, Avengers, Avengers 2, GOTG were all far more successful. GOTG2 will kill it at the box office. Guaranteed.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Has that been officially announced?
There's no release date. So it could be a long wait. I'd rather look forward to what's coming soon, like Dr. Strange, GOTG2 and Spider-Man Homecoming.
Originally posted by Mindset
There's no reason to be positive unless you believe WB will put out good DC movies with this profit.There's no reason for me to think that so far.
Then stop paying them money. As long as they keep getting your dollar notes they will keep on the course they're on.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
BvS was still a massive disappointment at the box office.If you don't think WB are crying over that one, then you're kidding yourself.
Also what do you mean it beats every other MCU film? Civil War, Iron Man 3, Avengers, Avengers 2, GOTG were all far more successful. GOTG2 will kill it at the box office. Guaranteed.
There's no release date. So it could be a long wait. I'd rather look forward to what's coming soon, like Dr. Strange, GOTG2 and Spider-Man Homecoming.
Then stop paying them money. As long as they keep getting your dollar notes they will keep on the course they're on.
Crying over it? Sure, it was a disappointment, but it still made them millions in profit.
BVS did more WW than GOTG, First 2 IM's, Thors, Hulk, Winter Soldier, Ant-Man, pretty much every other one not named Avengers or IM 3.
Originally posted by Zack M
Crying over it? Sure, it was a disappointment, but it still made them millions in profit.BVS did more WW than GOTG, First 2 IM's, Thors, Hulk, Winter Soldier, Ant-Man, pretty much every other one not named Avengers or IM 3.
You're missing the point.
BvS was their first event movie starring their 3 biggest names. GOTG, IM, Thor e.t.c were all solo movies and were B-List characters.
Also WS and GOTG made way more profit than BvS.
And still IM1 and IM2 sold better domestically. So pretty sure WB were more than just disappointed in BvS, especially given the bad reviews.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
You're missing the point.BvS was their first event movie starring their 3 biggest names. GOTG, IM, Thor e.t.c were all solo movies and were B-List characters.
Also WS and GOTG made way more profit than BvS.
And still IM1 and IM2 sold better domestically. So pretty sure WB were more than just disappointed in BvS, especially given the bad reviews.
I'm not disputing that. My point is that it made more than every other film, and it did. It's not my fault that the Trinity are more well known. 😛 SS will do the same, which is impressive for it's first outing.
^ SS's success is definitely impressive, yeah. And a much bigger step for the DCEU considering they finally did something good with their B-List characters.
Point about the Trinity is the DCEU went in all guns blazing, so were obviously going to gross more with the first 2 movies, especially with years of inflation and a much larger international market onside.
Originally posted by Darth ThorIt's not to each there own though. DC simply isn't putting out top quality. Most of these films bring in the cash based on strength of comic brand alone. The DCEU films have been consistently rated as a B when most Marvel movies don't drop below an A with only the Thor movies really going into that territory. You can like this fine and there is nothing wrong with that but there definitely have been some major flaws in how this universe is being built and movies that limp unto financial success encourages more of them.
^ To each their own. But yeah if you hated it then it's natural you wouldn't want it to do well.And it is doing really well.
Like suicide squad objectively wasn't a good movie. The editing and writing were sloppy at times. Characters were shoe horned in and provided almost no relevance to the plot other than to fill a quota.
Originally posted by Newjak
It's not to each there own though. DC simply isn't putting out top quality. Most of these films bring in the cash based on strength of comic brand alone. The DCEU films have been consistently rated as a B when most Marvel movies don't drop below an A with only the Thor movies really going into that territory. You can like this fine and there is nothing wrong with that but there definitely have been some major flaws in how this universe is being built and movies that limp unto financial success encourages more of them.Like suicide squad objectively wasn't a good movie. The editing and writing were sloppy at times. Characters were shoe horned in and provided almost no relevance to the plot other than to fill a quota.
Of course it's to each their own. Suicide Squad had no brand name previous to this movie. It had a big OW because people like the concept of the movie in the marketing. It's had good box office legs since then which is likely down to good word of mouth. So no it's not "Objectively" bad Lol.
I think the problem may be that Marvel has set the bar so high that it's been hard for the DCEU to follow without plenty of criticisms.
DC hasn't given us anything close to IM1 or Avengers 1 yet. But I do find SS and BvS more entertaining than a lot of other comic book movies tbh, including a few Marvel films.
Originally posted by NewjakIt was sub par but people like D. Thor and Golgo seem to really support these films.
It's not to each there own though. DC simply isn't putting out top quality. Most of these films bring in the cash based on strength of comic brand alone. The DCEU films have been consistently rated as a B when most Marvel movies don't drop below an A with only the Thor movies really going into that territory. You can like this fine and there is nothing wrong with that but there definitely have been some major flaws in how this universe is being built and movies that limp unto financial success encourages more of them.Like suicide squad objectively wasn't a good movie. The editing and writing were sloppy at times. Characters were shoe horned in and provided almost no relevance to the plot other than to fill a quota.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course it's to each their own. Suicide Squad had no brand name previous to this movie. It had a big OW because people like the concept of the movie in the marketing. It's had good box office legs since then which is likely down to good word of mouth. So no it's not "Objectively" bad Lol.I think the problem may be that Marvel has set the bar so high that it's been hard for the DCEU to follow without plenty of criticisms.
DC hasn't given us anything close to IM1 or Avengers 1 yet. But I do find SS and BvS more entertaining than a lot of other comic book movies tbh, including a few Marvel films.
As good as the best of Marvel is, I think a lot of people look at that series through rose-tinted glasses, focusing on the extreme highs of the series. You could argue that MoS or SS is just as good if not better than several Marvel movies, but nobody is going to take notice of them until they put out a movie on the quality of Iron Man.
Originally posted by Darth ThorBut they did have brand names... the Joker and Harley Quinn. Why do you think they showed Leto so much in the trailers. To cash in on Batman's brand.
Of course it's to each their own. Suicide Squad had no brand name previous to this movie. It had a big OW because people like the concept of the movie in the marketing. It's had good box office legs since then which is likely down to good word of mouth. So no it's not "Objectively" bad Lol.I think the problem may be that Marvel has set the bar so high that it's been hard for the DCEU to follow without plenty of criticisms.
DC hasn't given us anything close to IM1 or Avengers 1 yet. But I do find SS and BvS more entertaining than a lot of other comic book movies tbh, including a few Marvel films.
It doesn't have the best word of mouth. Even people I see defendit simply defend it as okay while still understanding it is a flawed movie. After all even it's general audience score on RT is 67% while the first Thor is 76%. The first Captain America is 74%. So even Marvel's earlier not IM movies still had an overall better reception then SS.
And I can admit those movies were not complete masterpieces. Most of them had amazing acts predated or followed by subpar ones. They were a mixed bunch.
I just hate to see an incredibly flawed movie like SS make such good money because it encourages WB to continue on this route. I hope I'm wrong but SS and BvS were less stellar kick offs to the DCEU. They were films with massive quality issues in plot, writing, being overcrowded. I would rather SS do bad and force WB to actually focus on quality throughout instead of forcing it.
Originally posted by Newjak
But they did have brand names... the Joker and Harley Quinn. Why do you think they showed Leto so much in the trailers. To cash in on Batman's brand.It doesn't have the best word of mouth. Even people I see defendit simply defend it as okay while still understanding it is a flawed movie. After all even it's general audience score on RT is 67% while the first Thor is 76%. The first Captain America is 74%. So even Marvel's earlier not IM movies still had an overall better reception then SS.
And I can admit those movies were not complete masterpieces. Most of them had amazing acts predated or followed by subpar ones. They were a mixed bunch.
I just hate to see an incredibly flawed movie like SS make such good money because it encourages WB to continue on this route. I hope I'm wrong but SS and BvS were less stellar kick offs to the DCEU. They were films with massive quality issues in plot, writing, being overcrowded. I would rather SS do bad and force WB to actually focus on quality throughout instead of forcing it.
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Originally posted by Newjak
But they did have brand names... the Joker and Harley Quinn. Why do you think they showed Leto so much in the trailers. To cash in on Batman's brand.It doesn't have the best word of mouth. Even people I see defendit simply defend it as okay while still understanding it is a flawed movie. After all even it's general audience score on RT is 67% while the first Thor is 76%. The first Captain America is 74%. So even Marvel's earlier not IM movies still had an overall better reception then SS.
And I can admit those movies were not complete masterpieces. Most of them had amazing acts predated or followed by subpar ones. They were a mixed bunch.
I just hate to see an incredibly flawed movie like SS make such good money because it encourages WB to continue on this route. I hope I'm wrong but SS and BvS were less stellar kick offs to the DCEU. They were films with massive quality issues in plot, writing, being overcrowded. I would rather SS do bad and force WB to actually focus on quality throughout instead of forcing it.
It doesn't have the best WOM, but it did have a better multiplier than CW. You may have not liked it, but you shouldn't want a film to fail, seeing as a lot of people did like it. I'm glad SS did tremendously well, because we'll be getting a sequel. SS was better than either Cap or the first Thor movies. Those were below average, IMO.