Create a strike team to kill ROTS Sidious

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi12 pages

Originally posted by Arhael
Well, Sidious dropped lightsaber himself in favor of regaining balance, not a clean disarm. 💃

Regardless, I never disagreed that Sidious will win majority against Windu. In fact for me Sidious wins majority against both. I consider stalemate between Yoda and Sidious as victory for Sidious because tired Yoda becomes frail helpless midget, while Sidous is still a large human with vast physical advantages.

I think we agree on most points. The only thing I'll say is.. Yoda looked superior in that fight. He might not have won.. but he looked slightly superior. The script from Lucas even makes mention "The emperor looks doomed" before yoda lost his balance. DP likes to mention difference in fights. Had yoda not been on the edge of a ledge.. he could've also very likely beaten sids.. Lucas says so... Thus, it's not a matter of Windu winning and Yoda didn't.. how can this be.. it doesn't make any sense. There was also context on why Yoda didn't win.

Yoda disarmed Sids of his saber. We can say he dropped it to regain balance but that is irrelevant. If you force your foe off balance with your strikes and he drops his saber.. it's the same as doing a fancy disarming move. All the same. So Yoda won that aspect of the fight. Force power.. Yoda overpowered a TK senate pod throw from Sids and sent it back at him. How about lighting.. well as I touched on... Yoda was seemingly about to overpower him and sids looked like he was done. To say Sidious beats yoda more times than not is a bit of a stretch imo considering how Lucas presented the fight.

@KT
Yet some sources claim that Yoda had to retreat against Sidious's great power. I don't remember the exact sentence, but Sidious supporters would provide that quote.

Originally posted by Marco1907
@KT
Yet some sources claim that Yoda had to retreat against Sidious's great power. I don't remember the exact sentence, but Sidious supporters would provide that quote.

There isn't a single reference in the book or movie or script that ever say such a thing. A material beyond that, is well, not on the same level as the above.

We can only hope DP will address my latest post with actual proof this time and not his conjecture.. speculation.. and lack of real life fighting understanding.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There isn't a single reference in the book or movie or script that ever say such a thing. A material beyond that, is well, not on the same level as the above.

We can only hope DP will address my latest post with actual proof this time and not his conjecture.. speculation.. and lack of real life fighting understanding.

It seems you haven't actually read the novel you keep referring to.

The ROTS novel makes it clear Yoda just didn't have what it takes to defeat Sidious.

Yes the same novel that calls Yoda the Most Devastatingly Powerful foe Sidious ever faced.

I'll reply to your post later. But a quick look over it and your mostly regurgitating the same lines which have already been thoroughly addressed without any proof to back up your claims. Unlike me whose provided tons of evidence to back up my arguments, in fact I've brought one up again in this very post.

Also the meaning of "devastating" appears to be lost on you.

XD Plagueiz could have been more devaztating thna Yoda but you know how it have ended.

And Darth power I muzt tell you....Your mumy iz dead... Thiz noght.

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It seems you haven't actually read the novel you keep referring to.

The ROTS novel makes it clear Yoda just didn't have what it takes to defeat Sidious.

Yes the same novel that calls Yoda the Most Devastatingly Powerful foe Sidious ever faced.

I'll reply to your post later. But a quick look over it and your mostly regurgitating the same lines which have already been thoroughly addressed without any proof to back up your claims. Unlike me whose provided tons of evidence to back up my arguments, in fact I've brought one up again in this very post.

Also the meaning of "devastating" appears to be lost on you.

Totally false.. I responded to each of your so called "evidence" and shown why it doesn't apply or means next to nothing.

By all means.. produce the quote that says Yoda can't beat Sids

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Totally false.. I responded to each of your so called "evidence" and shown why it doesn't apply or means next to nothing.

By all means.. produce the quote that says Yoda can't beat Sids

You mean you've ignored all the evidence in favor of your own opinions.

Oh giving you that quote is easy. Yoda says it himself in the novel.

And Just narratively speaking it would make no sense if Yoda only failed because he got unlucky. Because then surely he would try again. But he didn't and waited for someone who could grow more powerful than himself - Luke.

That's the story.

Btw before we continue let me just get straight what it is you're attempting to argue here.

I'm claiming Mace would lose a large majority to Sidious, and that Yoda is at best Sidious's equal.

What are you arguing? Are you claiming that both Windu and Yoda are superior to Sidious, and that either one would win a majority against him?

Or are you claiming Windu and Sidious are equals in combat and would win 50/100 fights each against each other? Or that Yoda, Windu and Sidious are all Equals in combat?

Revan>Mace, Power.

That comment^
Where's Marco, S66 and Tempest when you need them

Tempest agrees that Revan is above Mace (and so do the intelligent majority of the forum).

Revan would make Mace his personal plaything with the Force.

Then Force Folds Jaden Korr into existence, and plays paddle-ball with the knight's head.

BOONZ BOONZ BOONZ BU-BU-BOONZ BOONZ boku no pico BOONZ BOONZ BOONZ BU-BU BOONZ BOONZ

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
That comment^
Where's Marco, S66 and Tempest when you need them

Wait, it's lolworthy to assert that Revan>Mace? 😖

He doesn't understand. Let it go.

Do the intelligent majority also believe in those game mechanic feats? Also, you should know I meant that Mace>Revan in sabers, not in overall ability. Revan is not on Mace's level as a duelist- and no, that's not because Revan's dueling skills are on a whole nother level than mace's.

Read this to the beat of "Deck the Halls":

Fill the forums with double standards,
Fo lo lo lo lo, lo lo lo lo.
Tis the time to be angry,
Fo lo lo lo lo, lo lo lo lo.

Get your pads and apply them well,
Fo lo lo lo lo, lo lo lo lo.
Blood is leaking and moods are swinging,
Fo lo lo lo lo, lo lo lo lo.

Look at him getting very angry,
Fo lo lo lo lo, lo lo lo lo.
Pull the strings and the beast will come,
Fo lo lo lo lo, lo lo lo lo.

Pretty sure "Fa la la" is the standard, rather than "Fo lo lo".

Wait, it's lolworthy to assert Revan>Mace

The lolworthy part is really how some people don't bat an eyelash at Revan>Dooku, yet are dialing 911 at Revan>Mace.

Do the intelligent majority also believe in those game mechanic feats?

Nah, prolly not.

I know. I changed it so it's like "lol." And we are only calling 911 because Fated said it.

IMPORTANT NOTE: I mean that we taught and raised Fated in Star Wars to know better. Meanwhile S66 was saying Mace>Vitiate from birth.