Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus solidly.Lsu have martial expertise but she will be vulnerable to Malgus's powers. And this would be her undoing.
Malgus' powers by 'hope' are little to be in awe of and barely notable, Jace Malcom tanked his lightning for a good five seconds. Lsu doesn't get killed by light telekinetic breezes contrary to popular misplaced belief. Her sabers and speed will be more than enough to counter balance lightning attacks.
Lsu severely outmatches Malgus in sabers and likely speed as well, combine that with her precog and Malgus is essentially out of his depth.
Emperor Malgus however could dominate this with Force Powers, but this isn't Emperor Malgus nor anywhere even close.
Malgus' feats from the Third Lesson takes place directly after Hope. AKA holding up and throwing 2 buildings, pwning that zabrak Jedi and burning through his chest.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus solidly.Lsu have martial expertise but she will be vulnerable to Malgus's powers. And this would be her undoing.
Yes, immediately after Hope, where he has a colossal rage amplification.
This however isn't Malgus with such an enormous rage boost, but instead a Malgus in a comparatively generic mood. I mean if he could do all that is presented in Third Lesson as standard he wouldn't have been defeated in the first place, he'd be soloing Malcom, Shan and their troops with tree trunks
Maul with an immense rage amp nearly killed Sidious in a duel, as part of a test, does that mean Maul at any time can? Evidently not.
Hope Malgus as standard had lightning that Malcom could tank, not jaw dropping by any means.
Meh, Malgus' rage just made him reckless. It took him calming down and containing his anger for him to become effective. He didn't solo Shan and Malcolm because they're that good, not because he was weaker.
And Malcolms armor is lightning resistant. Theres no contradiction between Malgus' showings there and in the Third Lesson.
No, he was fuming with rage and wrecking shit with apparent ease the entire short story, far superior feats than those displayed in Hope.
Malgus was very clearly amplified by his rage after nearly dying and bulldozed the holy hell through that Zabrak with far greater speed than displayed in the trailer.
Hope Malgus does not have said rage and frankly Lsu's speed and precog combined with her skill will have her on-top of him right away. Doesn't hurt her that Malgus is exactly the type to charge into combat and that will seal his fate against such an excellent duelist.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Meh, Malgus' rage just made him reckless. It took him calming down and containing his anger for him to become effective. He didn't solo Shan and Malcolm because they're that good, not because he was weaker.[B]And Malcolms armor is lightning resistant
. Theres no contradiction between Malgus' showings there and in the Third Lesson. [/B]
Source/Quote please?...
Cause it would make me slightly feel better for that reason, then just because....even if Malcolm only survived long enough for interference rather then just straight up dying the first time when he was caught.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Its in the Swtor encyclopedia. In the Trooper section theres an example of Havoc Squads armor, that's Malcolm's armor from the trailer. A caption mentions it comes with an insulated body-glove that protects against extreme heat.@ AP, disagree. Thats not how I saw the story play out at all.
....Eh....does Malgus have any Force Lighting feats up to that point?
Tbh I thought it was gonna be some kinda special thing, not just some body glove..
Originally posted by AncientPower
Malgus' powers by 'hope' are little to be in awe of and barely notable,
Don't get fooled by his representation in Hope cinematic. Malgus was (very) powerful at this point.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Jace Malcom tanked his lightning for a good five seconds.
Ever seen a normal person enduring Sith lightning otherwise?
Again, don't get fooled by Malgus's representation in Hope cinematic.
Malgus's command of Sith lightning is among the best in mythos.
This is Malgus's lightning as of Hope:
At 10 meters, Malgus extended his free hand and loosed veins of blue Force lightning. They struck the charging Jedi: swept through his defenses, swirled around him, and began to burn flesh.
Shouting with pain, the Jedi leaned forward into the lightning - teeth bare, blue blades held before him - and staggered toward Malgus. Despite his burns, he came onward. One step, another, another, but he was failing, wilting in the heat of the lightning. Malgus channeled more power and the Jedi fell to his knees, screaming. The lightning spiraled around the Zabrak, blasting dark holes in his body. The lightsabers fell from his hands and he writhed in agony, screaming his pain into the sky.
Malgus ended his attack. The Jedi, ruined, fell to the ground and rolled over onto his back.
Taken from The Third Lesson
Do the math.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Lsu doesn't get killed by light telekinetic breezes contrary to popular misplaced belief. Her sabers and speed will be more than enough to counter balance lightning attacks.
Malgus used telekinesis against Satele only once during his confrontation with her on Aldeeran; he send her packing into a tree easily, demonstrating great power with this single action which gets overlooked due to intensity of actions in the cinematic.
In addition, Satele is much more powerful then Lsu as of Hope. The former might be too tough to choke or crush but Lsu is really lacking in comparison.
Here is an example of what Malgus did to another Jedi on Aldeeran:
Malgus relented in his attack, backed off a few steps, and reached out through the Force. Immediately he felt the faint, intentionally suppressed signature of another light-side user to his right. The Jedi's ally was hidden in the rubble, moving closer.
Malgus loosed a furious series of overhand strikes that forced the Zabrak to retreat rapidly. Sidestepping a stab from the Jedi, Malgus rode his motion into a Force-augmented spinning side kick that hit the Jedi in the ribs and sent him cartwheeling into the wall of nearby building. At the same time, he reached out with the Force for the hidden light-side user, brushed aside the resistance he felt, and pulled the Jedi out of hiding.
A human male in his twenties rose up out of ruins, dangling like a fish on the hook of Malgus's power. His legs kicked futilely; the green blade of his lightsaber cut at empty air; he gagged as Malgus's power squeezed shut his throat.
"Vorin!" shouted the Zabrak.
"So much for your ambush," Malgus said, and closed his fist, crushing Vorin's windpipe. He let the body fall to the charred earth.
Taken from The Third Lesson
Originally posted by AncientPower
Lsu severely outmatches Malgus in sabers and likely speed as well, combine that with her precog and Malgus is essentially out of his depth.
Malgus defeated Darach much earlier. Lsu is essentially out of her depth here.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Emperor Malgus however could dominate this with Force Powers, but this isn't Emperor Malgus nor anywhere even close.
Lsu is fodder here.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
....Eh....does Malgus have any Force Lighting feats up to that point?Tbh I thought it was gonna be some kinda special thing, not just some body glove..
Like I said above, an hour after the fight Malgus tears through the lightsaber defense of a very powerful Jedi (who had just dropped 2 buildings on Malgus) and burns holes in his body with lightning.
LeGenD, Lsu faced Orbalisk Bane whom was amped by both a nexus and a rage amp whilst she had a minor BM amp. Lsu was faster, more skilled and reacted faster than the Sith'ari could.
Now of course comes the part where Lsu had 'help', Jothun is featless and required protection from Lsu which distracted from her effort. She even told Farfalla that he was simply getting in her way and Farfalla was an excellent duelist himself.
The two of them were the only direct aid in her effort to kill Bane but said aid was mediocre at best.
So essentially we saw that Raskta Lsu + BM Amp > Darth Bane + Orbalisk Armor + Rage Amp + Nexus Amp, she was soundly beating him and the only attacks he ever connected was a Force Push and an elbow.
If you are telling me Hope! Malgus was greatly superior to ROT! Bane then I don't even know what to say.
Lsu is far from fodder, I suggest re-reading Rule of Two.
Darach was excellent, but between both Lord Vindican and apprentice Malgus he simply got exhausted after impaling the former.
Besides the argument here is not if Malgus is greater in the Force but whether or not his Force prowess makes up for the vast desparity in dueling ability, it simply doesn't.
I am not going to take Malgus' post-Hope feats into account, especially when rage amps are involved.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
......So body glove > defense of a Jedi Knight.
Got it....
Malcom got overwhelmed as well? Didn't he?
Look, the armor of Havoc Squad is Sci-Fi stuff. So take it like that.
Here are some aspects of the armor in question:-
1. Durasteel chest armor with internal cortosis plating.
2. Bandolier with attached personal shield generator.
3. Insulted body glove resists extreme temperatures.
4. External pouches for additional energy cells.
5. Paneled foot armor offers protection without sacrificing mobility.
Some description:-
Republic-issue combat armor is produced in a wide variety of styles to suit various mission profiles. Hardened duraplast forms the main protective element of most armor, either integrated into lightweight vests or molded into overlapping plates and worn over an insulated body glove for maximum coverage. When even more protection is called for, the duraplast may be supplemented or even replaced with plating composed of durasteel, cortosis, or other exotic materials.
Standard armors are resistant to small-arms fire and shrapnel, while heavier varieties are reported to have even survived repeated strikes from lightsabers and vehicle-mounted canons. Republic army recruitment centers sometimes display exceptional chesplates that have withstood direct missile impacts, hoping to inspire confidence in potential recruits.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
Also;
As the most elite soldiers in the Republic, the troopers of Havoc Squad are trained to take down any threat: including Sith.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
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So we witnessed super-soldiers in Hope cinematic, folks.
Hope this resolves the confusion.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No.Malcom got overwhelmed as well? Didn't he?
Look, the armor of Havoc Squad is Sci-Fi stuff. So take it like that.
Here are some aspects of the armor in question:-
1. Durasteel chest armor with internal cortosis plating.
2. Bandolier with attached personal shield generator.
3. Insulted body glove resists extreme temperatures.
4. External pouches for additional energy cells.
5. Paneled foot armor offers protection without sacrificing mobility.
Some description:-
[B]Republic-issue combat armor is produced in a wide variety of styles to suit various mission profiles. Hardened duraplast forms the main protective element of most armor, either integrated into lightweight vests or molded into overlapping plates and worn over an insulated body glove for maximum coverage. When even more protection is called for, the duraplast may be supplemented or even replaced with plating composed of durasteel, cortosis, or other exotic materials.
Standard armors are resistant to small-arms fire and shrapnel, while heavier varieties are reported to have even survived repeated strikes from lightsabers and vehicle-mounted canons. Republic army recruitment centers sometimes display exceptional chesplates that have withstood direct missile impacts, hoping to inspire confidence in potential recruits.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
Also;
As the most elite soldiers in the Republic, the troopers of Havoc Squad are trained to take down any threat: including Sith.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
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So we witnessed super-soldiers in Hope cinematic, folks.
Hope this resolves the confusion. [/B]
Ok see now that is more elaborate than a simple body glove.
Alright, fair enough.
But damnit Bioware..../sigh, they are kinda making everything pointless in later eras with all this stuff that they just keep making up.