Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No she wasn't. It was stated that the Jedi rumors believed she did:
"It was said that, by the end of the war, as many Sith Lords had fallen under her twin blades as had been killed by the thought bomb."
That doesn't make it rumor, it is simply praise, much like Revan is given. Thank you though, I didn't know it directly referred to Sith Lords.
Originally posted by carthage
Bringing up her amped speed feats isn't helping her, she has nothing to suggest she is faster or more skilled than Malgus (without bm). Satele blitzed multiple Sith before reaching Malgus, and her speed did nothing to circumvent his physical strength and superior skill that drove her to the ground.
Except she does, you simply scale her down from that performanxe, putting her at the very least on Bane's speed level.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
You mean like when you tried to make people understand the mechanics and implications of why Vitiate>The Ones?
For this topic, I am highlighting a ground reality of the implications of the command of the Force and raw power for a Force-user. I can provide many examples with which I can clarify this ground reality.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Lsu isn't a battlemaster though. She's a "Weapon's master". clear difference broski. Look it up
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
And? Malgus' MO is not to use force powers first.
Malgus is a dynamic individual, not a black & white operational system with limited set of instructions and lack of conscious.
As an example, Malgus used the Force to kill a Jedi on Aldeeran who attempted to ambush him. No lightsaber dueling was involved in this clash.
Malgus frequently uses a lightsaber in combat situations because he is a Sith Warrior and martial aspects of combat are his specialization. He is confident in his abilities and he have slaughtered many competent foes with just his lightsaber dueling abilities. However, he is a dynamic and experienced individual and can choose to fight an opponent in different ways.
What happened to your intellectual capability?
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
The same could be said for Jedi Weapon's masters dude.
The problem is that Lsu is lacking in raw power and command of the Force aspects, she is not powerful in the ways of the Force. She cannot contend with a stronger foe due to these factors under fair circumstances. This is how things are in Star Wars.
Revan is not noted for his martial skills but he will shit on most foes because of his excellent command of the Force and raw power in a battle. Try to comprehend.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
So you can throw insults, but when he does it, it's derailing from the original point? Yeah no. that's some flawed Logic.
[Neutral]Try to learn some ethics of a debate and you will do well.[/Neutral]
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Point being, Raskta's a skilled duelist and in all of his encounters prior to the ransacking of the Jedi temple, with Satele and Kao Cen Darach, he clearly goes in lightsaber blazing( 😮💨 ) that would also apply here.
In comparison, Lsu is massively outgunned in the aspects of command of the Force and raw power. Realistically she is utterly outgunned in this contest and will perish. No rocket science.
Originally posted by Selenial
Legend does it all the time, for less ridiculous claims than this. If he can't handle the heat he should get the **** out of the kitchen tbh.
I mostly start my debates in a decent manner but I am not the only one who have the obligation to maintain decency, my fellow debater have the same obligation. Issue arises when people start to attack intelligence of a person. Ponder over this.
Originally posted by Selenial
He puts Surik above Revan in sabers, so he's obviously a sane man with at least some intelligence, but tbh even I struggle to stomach some of the things he posts.
I was asserting that Revan was powerful in the ways of the Force and a competent duelist back in 2003, a time when critics would even say that Revan may have used bombs, guns, grenades and stuff to defeat Darth Malak on Star Forge. I have got many things right besides this one. This is a measure of intellectual capability.
Some level of intelligence? I am an accomplished man in practical life.
In comparison, lot of kids in this forum who are just growing up but mistakenly assume that they are superior to anybody in intellectual capability behind a screen.
Most of my statements are well-supported and have logic. I do have the tendency to think out of the box sometimes (e.g. my exploratory topics and assessments) but I get most things right. Confidence. 😎
I have trained some padawans too and they are doing well, Neph being one of them. Right now, DMZ and Xtasy are in need of training.
Imagine the things we both can accomplish if we become allies on the INTERNET. Join me and together we should overthrow the reigning Emperor of SWTOR forums. 😎
@DarthAnt66
Thank you
Originally posted by carthage
Bringing up her amped speed feats isn't helping her, she has nothing to suggest she is faster or more skilled than Malgus (without bm). Satele blitzed multiple Sith before reaching Malgus, and her speed did nothing to circumvent his physical strength and superior skill that drove her to the ground.
Originally posted by AncientPower
When are the pro-Malgus debaters going to give up on arguing Malgus takes Force? Because literally everyone here agrees he does.
Malgus takes the Force? This is childish argument. Malgus can defeat Lsu in multiple ways including in strictly lightsaber duel.
Command of the Force and raw power influence the effectiveness of a Jedi in all aspects including martial aspects. Of-course, some Jedi focus on honing their talents in martial aspects of combat but they can still be decent Force-users holistically because they have such raw power.
By your logic, Lsu will defeat Bane in fair circumstances because she have presumably superior martial skills. This advantage won't be enough.
Why do you think Hero of Tython and Revan are such competent warriors? Are they due to being competent duelists or they also have incredible raw power and command of the Force?
Originally posted by AncientPower
The point is that Malgus is completely outmatched in lightsaber skill and and given he himself is a Sith Juggernaut, then Lsu can kill him long before he bothers to bring his Force prowess into play.
Malgus is a master swordsman, and unlike Lsu, have real credibility.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Malgus' lightning can be blocked by her dual sabers
At 10 meters, Malgus extended his free hand and loosed veins of blue Force lightning. They struck the charging Jedi: swept through his defenses, swirled around him, and began to burn flesh.
Shouting with pain, the Jedi leaned forward into the lightning - teeth bare, blue blades held before him - and staggered toward Malgus. Despite his burns, he came onward. One step, another, another, but he was failing, wilting in the heat of the lightning. Malgus channeled more power and the Jedi fell to his knees, screaming. The lightning spiraled around the Zabrak, blasting dark holes in his body. The lightsabers fell from his hands and he writhed in agony, screaming his pain into the sky.
Malgus ended his attack. The Jedi, ruined, fell to the ground and rolled over onto his back.
Taken from The Third Lesson
Keep in mind that this Jedi is (very) powerful Jedi.
Originally posted by AncientPower
and his Telekinesis will not have the desired effect.
Malgus relented in his attack, backed off a few steps, and reached out through the Force. Immediately he felt the faint, intentionally suppressed signature of another light-side user to his right. The Jedi's ally was hidden in the rubble, moving closer.
Malgus loosed a furious series of overhand strikes that forced the Zabrak to retreat rapidly. Sidestepping a stab from the Jedi, Malgus rode his motion into a Force-augmented spinning side kick that hit the Jedi in the ribs and sent him cartwheeling into the wall of nearby building. At the same time, he reached out with the Force for the hidden light-side user, brushed aside the resistance he felt, and pulled the Jedi out of hiding.
A human male in his twenties rose up out of ruins, dangling like a fish on the hook of Malgus's power. His legs kicked futilely; the green blade of his lightsaber cut at empty air; he gagged as Malgus's power squeezed shut his throat.
"Vorin!" shouted the Zabrak.
"So much for your ambush," Malgus said, and closed his fist, crushing Vorin's windpipe. He let the body fall to the charred earth.
Taken from The Third Lesson
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What part of this statement:
"A Weapons Master was not skilled at defending against enemy Force attacks."
Taken from Darth Bane: Rule of Two
- you are not getting?
As I said before, Malgus may just snap her neck like he did to a Jedi.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Oh and LeGenD, Lsu killed as many Sith as the Thought Bomb did, so yeh she has.
And again, Brotherhood Sith were mostly mooks.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am not being pro-Malgus by choice, I am being neutral and rational.Malgus takes the Force? This is childish argument. Malgus can defeat Lsu in multiple ways including in strictly lightsaber duel.
Command of the Force and raw power influence the effectiveness of a Jedi in all aspects including martial aspects. Of-course, some Jedi focus on honing their talents in martial aspects of combat but they can still be decent Force-users holistically because they have such raw power.
By your logic, Lsu will defeat Bane in fair circumstances because she have presumably superior martial skills. This advantage won't be enough.
Why do you think Hero of Tython and Revan are such competent warriors? Are they due to being competent duelists or they also have incredible raw power and command of the Force?
This is asinine.
Malgus is a master swordsman, and unlike Lsu, have real credibility.
Like this?
[B]At 10 meters, Malgus extended his free hand and loosed veins of blue Force lightning. They struck the charging Jedi: swept through his defenses, swirled around him, and began to burn flesh.
Shouting with pain, the Jedi leaned forward into the lightning - teeth bare, blue blades held before him - and staggered toward Malgus. Despite his burns, he came onward. One step, another, another, but he was failing, wilting in the heat of the lightning. Malgus channeled more power and the Jedi fell to his knees, screaming. The lightning spiraled around the Zabrak, blasting dark holes in his body. The lightsabers fell from his hands and he writhed in agony, screaming his pain into the sky.
Malgus ended his attack. The Jedi, ruined, fell to the ground and rolled over onto his back.
Taken from The Third Lesson
Keep in mind that this Jedi is (very) powerful Jedi.
Like this?
Malgus relented in his attack, backed off a few steps, and reached out through the Force. Immediately he felt the faint, intentionally suppressed signature of another light-side user to his right. The Jedi's ally was hidden in the rubble, moving closer.
Malgus loosed a furious series of overhand strikes that forced the Zabrak to retreat rapidly. Sidestepping a stab from the Jedi, Malgus rode his motion into a Force-augmented spinning side kick that hit the Jedi in the ribs and sent him cartwheeling into the wall of nearby building. At the same time, he reached out with the Force for the hidden light-side user, brushed aside the resistance he felt, and pulled the Jedi out of hiding.
A human male in his twenties rose up out of ruins, dangling like a fish on the hook of Malgus's power. His legs kicked futilely; the green blade of his lightsaber cut at empty air; he gagged as Malgus's power squeezed shut his throat.
"Vorin!" shouted the Zabrak.
"So much for your ambush," Malgus said, and closed his fist, crushing Vorin's windpipe. He let the body fall to the charred earth.
Taken from The Third Lesson
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What part of this statement:
"A Weapons Master was not skilled at defending against enemy Force attacks."
Taken from Darth Bane: Rule of Two
- you are not getting?
As I said before, Malgus may just snap her neck like he did to a Jedi.
She hasn't. Its just a hearsay.
And again, Brotherhood Sith were mostly mooks. [/B]
You are not actually taking into account anything i am actually stating, just reasserting your belief that Lsu gets stomped with the Force by any mediocre Sith with decent Force capability.
Raskta Lsu is an incredibly skilled Sword Master and the best the Jedi had seen in centuries. She has superior martial skill and lightsaber skill than Malgus does by a strong margin.
Raskta Lsu has exceptional precognition even for an Echani, which will only increase her effectiveness.
Raskta Lsu has exceptional environmental awareness and analysis of her opponents, she was a master in practice of every style and form available to the Jedi.
She would gear her own style and combat tactics to suit whatever type of opponent she faced, Bane himself noted her ability to adapt. This was reinforced in her evidental ambidextrous style.
Raskta Lsu with a Battle Meditation amp was magnitudes faster than Bane was and she was appearing as a blur that was everywhere at once. This whilst in the center of a very strong concentration of Dark Side energy, essentially a nexus as confirmed earlier in the novel by Bane.
The Battle Meditation amplification itself did seem to increase all the Jedi by about 20% in energy/power. Lsu therefore still seems to be much faster than Bane himself was without said BM amp which is still many times faster than Malgus.
Oh and for the second time, it isn't rumor it is just hero praise, the same kind of statements thrown at Revan constantly, no one seems to have any trouble accepting those. Now as much as the Thought Bomb, is yes very likely just hyperbole, but it is no doubt placed in truth however so she should still have a record Sith Lord kill count.
Lsu doesn't have exceptional skill in Force Defense, because she restricted all of her prowess in the Force to techniques that bolster her ability in combat, including Force Augmentation.
Just because she doesn't have considerable skill in Force Defense does not however mean that anyone with a half decent Force Push roflstomps her.
Again Malgus' feats in Third Lesson are in concert with being enormously pissed off at his almost dying not even an hour prior, his feats here are not consistent with his feats in the Hope trailer itself.
I just don't see Malgus in a neutral environment being able to so easily dispatch the Weapon Master when 95% of his own offense is with the blade. Malgus has shown previous preference for defeating enemies with his blade and not with his Force Prowess.
His mindset engaging Ven Zallow was all about dominating and killing him with his blade. If he sees a genuinely worthy combatant, a specailist in saber combat then he wants to kill with his blade, your own quotes prove this.
The idea that her neck can just be snapped on the spot is completely contradictory to her own feats in combat. If it was that easy Bane would have done so himself.
All the factors listed above lead to one outcome: Darth Malgus is outduelled and killed by the Echani Weapon Master.
Originally posted by AncientPower
You are not actually taking into account anything i am actually stating, just reasserting your belief that Lsu gets stomped with the Force by any mediocre Sith with decent Force capability.
Clear enough?
Their are certain ground realities of the lore which should not be overlooked or ignored due to bias.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Raskta Lsu is an incredibly skilled Sword Master and the best the Jedi had seen in centuries. She has superior martial skill and lightsaber skill than Malgus does by a strong margin.
Also, your claims regarding superiority of Lsu over Malgus in martial aspects of combat are unfounded and subjective. Unlike Lsu, Malgus have documented examples of incredible swordsmanship and notable victories under his belt. Available evidence favors his position over hers even in this matter.
Lsu have hype and is believed to have defeated many brotherhood Sith but Malgus isn't an average joe.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Raskta Lsu has exceptional precognition even for an Echani, which will only increase her effectiveness.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Raskta Lsu has exceptional environmental awareness and analysis of her opponents, she was a master in practice of every style and form available to the Jedi.She would gear her own style and combat tactics to suit whatever type of opponent she faced, Bane himself noted her ability to adapt. This was reinforced in her evidental ambidextrous style.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Raskta Lsu with a Battle Meditation amp was magnitudes faster than Bane was and she was appearing as a blur that was everywhere at once. This whilst in the center of a very strong concentration of Dark Side energy, essentially a nexus as confirmed earlier in the novel by Bane.
And yes, Lsu was that fast due to effect of BM on her. This is not her actual performance, and it is useless to cite it. Common sense.
Originally posted by AncientPower
The Battle Meditation amplification itself did seem to increase all the Jedi by about 20% in energy/power. Lsu therefore still seems to be much faster than Bane himself was without said BM amp which is still many times faster than Malgus.
And no, she won't be as fast as Bane in normal situation. She matched or exceeded his speed only with effect of BM on her.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Oh and for the second time, it isn't rumor it is just hero praise, the same kind of statements thrown at Revan constantly, no one seems to have any trouble accepting those. Now as much as the Thought Bomb, is yes very likely just hyperbole, but it is no doubt placed in truth however so she should still have a record Sith Lord kill count.
Also, Lsu doesn't have a record kill count. In-fact, if you speak of records, kill count of Emperor's Wrath exceeds 1000 including more then 100 Sith kills.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Lsu doesn't have exceptional skill in Force Defense, because she restricted all of her prowess in the Force to techniques that bolster her ability in combat, including Force Augmentation.Just because she doesn't have considerable skill in Force Defense does not however mean that anyone with a half decent Force Push roflstomps her.
Someone with half decent Force push? You kidding? Malgus threw Satele Shan into a large tree without difficulty. This is not half-decent, it shows how powerful he is, that he could toss around other powerful opponents as if they are fodder even as of Hope.
Just an hour or two later, Malgus blasted away tons of rubble away from him with this raw telekinetic power.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Again Malgus' feats in Third Lesson are in concert with being enormously pissed off at his almost dying not even an hour prior, his feats here are not consistent with his feats in the Hope trailer itself.
What makes you think that Malgus wasn't using his emotions such as anger in his fight against Satele Shan and Jace Malcom? The latter fired missiles at Malgus and one of them struck the Sith Lord, injuring him in the process. You think that Malgus won't be angry after this moment?
Just because we don't have a description of the aforementioned battle, doesn't means that well-known Sith related mechanics were not in the works behind-the-scenes.
Sith Lords commonly use their emotions to fuel their power. This is their doctrine, and Malgus is not an exception to this rule. Get your facts straight.
Originally posted by AncientPower
I just don't see Malgus in a neutral environment being able to so easily dispatch the Weapon Master when 95% of his own offense is with the blade. Malgus has shown previous preference for defeating enemies with his blade and not with his Force Prowess.
Also, Malgus is a dynamic individual; he uses different ways to dispatch his opponents. He blasted Malcom with lightning but dueled Satele Shan. In another confrontation, he dueled a Jedi first but used his Force powers to destroy him afterwards. During the course of this particular struggle, Malgus used his powers to kill another Jedi who attempted to ambush him.
Your assertion is baseless again, a norm in this thread.
Originally posted by AncientPower
His mindset engaging Ven Zallow was all about dominating and killing him with his blade. If he sees a genuinely worthy combatant, a specailist in saber combat then he wants to kill with his blade, your own quotes prove this.
And Zallow is actually a powerful Jedi. If it was Lsu, she would have died from the impact on concrete structure.
Your assertion is baseless again, a norm in this thread.
Originally posted by AncientPower
The idea that her neck can just be snapped on the spot is completely contradictory to her own feats in combat. If it was that easy Bane would have done so himself.
Bane did not even attempt snapping her neck, your point is moot.
Originally posted by AncientPower
All the factors listed above lead to one outcome: Darth Malgus is outduelled and killed by the Echani Weapon Master.
I thought you were a well centered debater but half your statements are essentially just insults and "My opinion > Your's" statements.
If you want to debate this like an adult then i am all for it, however if all you are going to do is dismiss points with inconclusive opinions combined with misplaced insults then i have no need to debate this with you.
Originally posted by AncientPower
I thought you were a well centered debater but half your statements are essentially just insults and "My opinion > Your's" statements.If you want to debate this like an adult then i am all for it, however if all you are going to do is dismiss points with inconclusive opinions combined with misplaced insults then i have no need to debate this with you.
What is the meaning of the world baseless?
Without basis.
If you are not comfortable with the word baseless, I can use another term for it.
Also, I will correct you on another point; I am not presenting opinions; I am presenting substantiated and supported points. You are presenting opinions in contrast.
You know what an opinion is?
A belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty
Learn to differentiate between an opinion and a substantiated point.
You lost in this debate because of your weak arguments, now don't try to take out your frustration on me.
I didn't lose, you are ignoring half my argument by stating that I'm wrong and baseless, oh and this:
"Your argument is baseless. A norm in this thread."
Is insulting, you're stating that my arguments and everyone else's that don't comply with your's are baseless.
I have provided numerous pieces of evidence because all of my statements are grounded in the works I'm drawing from.
Your accusations of being baseless are both unwarranted and incorrect.
I haven't made a single argument here that isn't based in sources. On the other hand half your arguments are just 'your intrepretation is wrong, mine is right'. By contrast I have compromised on mine to have a finer debate.
You are making huge leaps in logic, here is one example:
A few generic 'master swordsman' accolades on Malgus' part do not equate to being called the best duelist of her time. Does not equate to having full mastery and knowledge on every weapon, form and style available in either order. Most certainly does not equate to being a Weapon Master, Jedi Temple Instructor for decades and being a record Sith Killer among the Jedi Order.
Here is another example:
That Malgus simply snaps her neck from the get-go despite the fact that Bane didn't attempt this himself despite being in an incredibly desperate situation. Not to mention the countless occasions where Lsu engaged Sith Lords and killed every single one of them.
A third one, just for emphasis:
She has a hyperbole/praise statement gifting her the accolade of having killed as many Sith Lords with her blades as the Thought Bomb eradicated, matching the complete mastery of martial and lightsaber skill she has achieved.
According to you however, despite this mastery the statement has absolutely no basis in her actual accolades/feats. I even agreed that the Thought Bomb part was hyperbolic, yet I stated that, as with all hyperbole in Star Wars the accolade is grounded in truth. She very likely does have an extremely impressive kill count.
I am sorry but your argument over this particular accolade is a strawman.
These are all pretty monumentous leaps in logic I am afraid to say.
Originally posted by AncientPower
I didn't lose, you are ignoring half my argument by stating that I'm wrong and baseless, oh and this:"Your argument is baseless. A norm in this thread."
Is insulting, you're stating that my arguments and everyone else's that don't comply with your's are baseless.
2. If you think that your position in this debate have merit because of your stubbornness, their is nothing much I can do.
We are now going in circles because of your bias and lack of comprehension. I have addressed all of your points with concrete evidence, yet you continue to accuse, ignore, overlook and repeat.
Originally posted by AncientPower
I have provided numerous pieces of evidence because all of my statements are grounded in the works I'm drawing from.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Your accusations of being baseless are both unwarranted and incorrect.
Why do you think I had to cite content from multiple sources to counter your claims?
Look, I don't like to argue for the sake of argument. I have provided ample evidence in favor of Malgus in this thread, which guides readers to the most informed conclusion about this hypothetical contest.
If you cannot comprehend provided evidence and not realize your mistakes, we cannot have a debate.
If I were in your position, I would have conceded. My intelligence wouldn't have been in question if I had lost in a debate due to lack of information or sufficient research on my part about the topic in discussion, rather my concession would be representative of my intelligence and rationality.
Nobody is going to reward me with a trophy for my victory in a debate or boo you for your loss in a debate. So think rationally and settle this debate.
Originally posted by AncientPower
I haven't made a single argument here that isn't based in sources. On the other hand half your arguments are just 'your intrepretation is wrong, mine is right'. By contrast I have compromised on mine to have a finer debate.
Here are some of your gems:-
1.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Malgus' powers by 'hope' are little to be in awe of and barely notable
2.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Lsu severely outmatches Malgus in sabers and likely speed as well, combine that with her precog and Malgus is essentially out of his depth.
3.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Hope Malgus as standard had lightning that Malcom could tank, not jaw dropping by any means.
All poorly formulated and lacking in depth and understanding of the power of character in question and merits of his opponents. These gems are from from page 1 only. Their are lot more gems in this entire thread from you. Several other members have also noticed errors in your posts including your ally DMB.
What do you expect? Sympathy? Or you have doubt about my sanity?
I would have no interest in this debate if I had not noticed errors in the arguments presented. I jumped in to correct the misconceptions and I have done that so far. But for critics, this became a matter of ego after they lost in the debate. And then you accuse me of insulting.
Originally posted by AncientPower
You are making huge leaps in logic, here is one example:A few generic 'master swordsman' accolades on Malgus' part do not equate to being called the best duelist of her time. Does not equate to having full mastery and knowledge on every weapon, form and style available in either order. Most certainly does not equate to being a Weapon Master, Jedi Temple Instructor for decades and being a record Sith Killer among the Jedi Order.
In contrast, Lsu have less impressive and mostly unsubstantiated history. She may have been the best duelist of her era but she lived in a different time then Malgus. Therefore, you cannot declare Lsu as being superior to Malgus in martial aspects of combat based on this claim, it won't fly.
As for the other remarks, Malgus doesn't have to be her equal in all that to outduel her, his superior command of the Force and raw power will be enough. Though Malgus isn't lacking in martial expertise, it is his specialty.
The competence of a Jedi is dependent upon his power and command of the Force and not exclusively on martial abilities. This is why a Jedi will defeat Bruce Lee in combat.
If you are not getting my point then I have a question for you: Why do you think Cin Drallig lost to Anakin Skywalker?
FYI: Cin Dralling was a master of all forms of lightsaber combat and a Jedi Battlemaster as well. His skills had been described as being "nearly unparalleled."
From the official profile:
An esteemed Jedi Master and a swordsman of great skill, Cin Drallig was the head of security for the Jedi Temple on Coruscant.
As you can notice, hype is significant. But performance against a powerful and skilled opponent was really lacking.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Here is another example:That Malgus simply snaps her neck from the get-go despite the fact that Bane didn't attempt this himself despite being in an incredibly desperate situation. Not to mention the countless occasions where Lsu engaged Sith Lords and killed every single one of them.
Why is their a story and drama in the novel? Any ideas?
If Bane had held Lsu in a choke, their was nothing she could do and she would have been at his mercy at this point. Issue was that Lsu wasn't alone, her companions were helping her and they kept Bane under pressure.
In this confrontation, Lsu is alone and her defenses are lacking. It doesn't takes an Einstein to figure out her fate when Malgus decides to choke her or snap her neck.
Also, you keep on highlighting Brotherhood Sith as an analogy for Lsu's competence. Do you seriously believe that those mooks are as powerful as Malgus?
And then you accuse me of being insulting and vice versa.
Originally posted by AncientPower
A third one, just for emphasis:She has a hyperbole/praise statement gifting her the accolade of having killed as many Sith Lords with her blades as the Thought Bomb eradicated, matching the complete mastery of martial and lightsaber skill she has achieved.
According to you however, despite this mastery the statement has absolutely no basis in her actual accolades/feats. I even agreed that the Thought Bomb part was hyperbolic, yet I stated that, as with all hyperbole in Star Wars the accolade is grounded in truth. She very likely does have an extremely impressive kill count.
Who is her opponent in this thread? Malgus or an unknown Brotherhood mook?
Originally posted by AncientPower
I am sorry but your argument over this particular accolade is a strawman.These are all pretty monumentous leaps in logic I am afraid to say.
Please forgive me for my naivety and lack of knowledge. I never even heard of these characters before and decided to jump in arguing about their capabilities.
Originally posted by AncientPower
That doesn't make it rumor, it is simply praise, much like Revan is given. Thank you though, I didn't know it directly referred to Sith Lords.
Really? When? I've always gone off the Book of Sith quote which says he's not the Sith'ari...
"After Adas's death at the hands of Rakatan invaders, many pretenders claimed to hold the title of Sith'ari, but none was able to restore the Sith to power until the discovery of a man named Dessel. Dessel was trained on Korriban during the years leading up to the Battle of Ruusan; he eventually became Darth Bane, the man who reinvented the Sith and established the Rule of Two." The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, Volume 3, p. 155
Doesn't confirm him as the Sith'ari.
The book of Sith Quote is:
My master suggested, perhaps spuriously, that Darth Bane fulfilled this prophecy by annihilating the old Sith order and establishing the rule of two. Yet Bane was not free of restriction. As my plans unfold, I come ever closer to unlimited power.