Raskta Lsu vs. Darth Malgus (Hope)

See, this is why no one respects you here besides DMB and the like. DMB and LeGenD were actually, you know, having an educated debate? Jumping in and defending DMB lowers his credibility, which increases all the "Bane sux" shit that been going on, and your own, despite your intentions obviously being to defend your "droogie." Trying to demoralize and lower LeGenD's words to where they hold no credibility, which you were trying to do there, is pretty outrageous. Suggesting Vitiate>The Ones is actually implied in statements, and while majority of users disagree (including myself), that doesn't give you a right to mimic and insult him for it.

Legend does it all the time, for less ridiculous claims than this. If he can't handle the heat he should get the **** out of the kitchen tbh.

LeGenD is cool though, he puts Revan>Yoda, so I approve of his actions (since my opinion is the only one that matters).

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
LeGenD is cool though, he puts Revan>Yoda, so I approve of his actions (since my opinion is the only one that matters).

Watch your tongue child.

He puts Surik above Revan in sabers, so he's obviously a sane man with at least some intelligence, but tbh even I struggle to stomach some of the things he posts.

Nah, he puts Revan as a far superior combatant. Anyone who says Surik is above Revan in sabers never read the Revan novel, mother.

Revan barely did anything with a Lightsaber, except her disarmed by shitiate.

Revan's display against the Guard was infinitely superior to Surik's.

He killed one, when he had to deal with one.

She killed one in the time it took him to kill one, then killed two in about the same amount of time...

While he was disarmed by someone who can barely hold a lightsaber.

No, she didn't "kill one in the time it took him to kill one." There were 6 guards present + Yarri.
T3 killed one, Revan killed one, the other 4 and Yarri engaged Scourge and Meetra during Revan vs Vitiate.
The circumstances behind one of the guards death is unknown, but 2 were killed by Meetra and 1 + Yarri was killed by Scourge.
Note that Meetra had much difficulty with the guards she faced, while Revan handily demolished the sucker within a second or so.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
LeGenD is cool though, he puts Revan>Yoda, so I approve of his actions (since my opinion is the only one that matters).

Originally posted by Selenial
Revan barely did anything with a Lightsaber, except her disarmed by shitiate.

Originally posted by Selenial
Watch your tongue child.

He puts Surik above Revan in sabers, so he's obviously a sane man with at least some intelligence, but tbh even I struggle to stomach some of the things he posts.

Still waiting on DMB to show any feats of force augmentation for Raskta that occurs in text (not off panel) and without battle meditation

Originally posted by carthage
Still waiting on DMB to show any feats of force augmentation for Raskta that occurs in text (not off panel) and without battle meditation

this guy takes it i forgot that BM was an edge for her.........mmmmmm i might go with malgus now.......damn

When are the pro-Malgus debaters going to give up on arguing Malgus takes Force? Because literally everyone here agrees he does.

The point is that Malgus is completely outmatched in lightsaber skill and and given he himself is a Sith Juggernaut, then Lsu can kill him long before he bothers to bring his Force prowess into play.

Malgus' lightning can be blocked by her dual sabers and his Telekinesis will not have the desired effect.

Oh and LeGenD, Lsu killed as many Sith as the Thought Bomb did, so yeh she has.

Originally posted by AncientPower
When are the pro-Malgus debaters going to give up on arguing Malgus takes Force? Because literally everyone here agrees he does.

The point is that Malgus is completely outmatched in lightsaber skill and and given he himself is a Sith Juggernaut, then Lsu can kill him long before he bothers to bring his Force prowess into play.

Malgus' lightning can be blocked by her dual sabers and his Telekinesis will not have the desired effect.

Oh and LeGenD, Lsu killed as many Sith as the Thought Bomb did, so yeh she has.

That's off panel and doesn't make her as skilled as Malgus who has beaten Darach and forced to the ground. Raskta has no comparable showings in beating duelists such as Satele and Darach, and she is outclassed as a force user. She also has no feats to prove she can even withstand Malgus's strength without BM.

Ah the 'no names are red shirts' fallacy, killing thousands of Sith is an incredibly impressive feat and shows that she is truly a master of saber combat without equal in her time.

Kaan's Sith may not have been the strongest in the Force but they clearly had martial skill, as the CSWE implies.

Satele Shan and Kao Cen Darach's own feats in lightsaber combat do not compare to Lsu's, ignoring them by stating that she had a BM amp and avoiding the fact Bane's own advantages were thrice that of her own is a weak argument.

She killed thousands of Sih, from grunts to lords to masters and evidently her lacking in Force defense ability did not cause her death in any single one of those fights.

The 'Lsu dies cus she sux' argument, which is basically what this has boiled down to, is a fallacy and a strawman at best.

Does she have average Force Defense feats? Yes, has this ever gotten her killed in the countless thousands of occasions where she supposedly should have been? No.

Does she with a BM amp outspeed Bane by multiple degrees? Yes she does, considering Bane's own considerable speed feats then we can conclude that without one she would be around his own speed level at the very least, which is not bad at all.

Her Precognition however was considerable and is likely what helped her counter her lacking defense, this combined with her speed would make her a vert fast and adaptable fighter.

Hope Malgus is in no way superior to amped Orb Bane and is infact inferior by a fairly large margin. Scale Bane and Lsu down to standard degrees and they are both still considerably faster than Malgus.

She never killed thousands of Sith, lol, or even close to that. It's called an hyperbole. She probably killed like 13 and the Jedi did a ritual dance over how powerful she was.

She is stated to have killed as many Sith as the Thought Bomb did.

No she wasn't. It was stated that the Jedi rumors believed she did:
"It was said that, by the end of the war, as many Sith Lords had fallen under her twin blades as had been killed by the thought bomb."

Originally posted by AncientPower
Ah the 'no names are red shirts' fallacy, killing thousands of Sith is an incredibly impressive feat and shows that she is truly a master of saber combat without equal in her time.

Kaan's Sith may not have been the strongest in the Force but they clearly had martial skill, as the CSWE implies.

Satele Shan and Kao Cen Darach's own feats in lightsaber combat do not compare to Lsu's, ignoring them by stating that she had a BM amp and avoiding the fact Bane's own advantages were thrice that of her own is a weak argument.

She killed thousands of Sih, from grunts to lords to masters and evidently her lacking in Force defense ability did not cause her death in any single one of those fights.

The 'Lsu dies cus she sux' argument, which is basically what this has boiled down to, is a fallacy and a strawman at best.

Does she have average Force Defense feats? Yes, has this ever gotten her killed in the countless thousands of occasions where she supposedly should have been? No.

Does she with a BM amp outspeed Bane by multiple degrees? Yes she does, considering Bane's own considerable speed feats then we can conclude that without one she would be around his own speed level at the very least, which is not bad at all.

Her Precognition however was considerable and is likely what helped her counter her lacking defense, this combined with her speed would make her a vert fast and adaptable fighter.

Hope Malgus is in no way superior to amped Orb Bane and is infact inferior by a fairly large margin. Scale Bane and Lsu down to standard degrees and they are both still considerably faster than Malgus.

Bringing up her amped speed feats isn't helping her, she has nothing to suggest she is faster or more skilled than Malgus (without bm). Satele blitzed multiple Sith before reaching Malgus, and her speed did nothing to circumvent his physical strength and superior skill that drove her to the ground.