Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Yamcha
If filler in DBZ is now canon then that makes Filler Yamcha canon! I can rejoice! YouTube video

So if the filler in DBZ is canon now, why wasn't Frieza's afterlife buddies (Cell and the Ginyu Force) with him when he was shown in hell in RoF?

Originally posted by Kento
they are pulling canon scenes from the anime cause its an anime. There's nothing shown that hasn't been in the manga. well as he literally said he never tried it because ssj isn't suitable and old kaioshin was like its a death sentence to do so I'm pretty sure Pikkon is still not canon.

I don't know why, but I still liked the idea someone mentioned earlier that Goku using Kaioken in SSB would make him look like his super saiyan red self again.

Can you imagine what his ki aura would've even looked like if he used Kaioken while he was still super saiyan red against Beerus in the first arc? lol

You probably wouldn't have been able to see him.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Poor Olibu. I actually liked him. lol

So if the filler in DBZ is canon now, why wasn't Frieza's afterlife buddies (Cell and the Ginyu Force) with him when he was shown in hell in RoF?

Yeah... Based on this and whatnot, I'm not 100% convinced yet that the anime fillers are canon now as well. Plus you would think Goku would've referenced him using Kaioken while SSJ in his Pikkon fight when going back to using it in SSB.

Wasn't Cell and Freeza only together in GT?

Originally posted by cdtm
Wasn't Cell and Freeza only together in GT?

No.

Remember the Pikkon episodes.

YouTube video

Uh, no, this doesn't make filler canon. Goku outright says that Kaio-Ken couldn't be used with SSJ, but can be used with SSJB for a some completely idiotic reason like "it's more controlled".

Yeah, based on Goku's statement, he never used Kaioken while SSJ, so the moment he did so against Pikkon is still non-canon, looks like.

As for the Cell and Frieza alliance, I wouldn't of minded it being canon if it had been done in a better way. It was kinda cool in the Z filler when they were tormenting denizens of hell together, but the way GT had them together was cringeworthy.

Yeah, despite getting stronger and having a secret technique up their sleeves, they still jobbed to Base Chibi Goku 🙁

Yeah...

Maybe the alliance should've been made canon by having Cell brought back along with Frieza during the RoF arc; Frieza would still get his new golden form while Cell gets a shiny new form of his own through training, and they both test the limits of Goku and Vegeta's then new SSJB forms together.

Golden Cell...

At least golden team versus SSJB team would've forced Goku and Vegeta to do some of that teamwork Whis was trying to teach them. lol

Maybe movies will be made to canon next and then we can have what everyone truly yearns for deep within their hearts, following the events after Resurrection F but before going to Universe 6..

REVIVAL OF C!

👆
I made a Golden Cooler in Xenoverse that looks pretty much like that.

okay, this one goes out to CARVER.

I created this account so i could respond to your flawed logic.
Fact is toriyama ****ed up with the 0.1 second time leap... PERIOD

And here's why: Normal people, for instance race car drivers have a reaction speed in between 0.1and 0.2 seconds. this should mean that a 0.1 second advantage for a fighter like hit should be enough to end the fight thousands of times over in that
time frame without goku being able to defend himself (cause time is frozen for him).

Now later you are rejoicing at the fact that hit is able to hit him 2000 times in 0.2 seconds.. well indeed that is starting to look more like it..but that would mean that previously in the 0.1 time leap he would still be able to hit him 1000 times... Yet goku 'predicted' his moves in the 0.1 second time leap ??
Seriously ?? It would be impossible to predict and block 1000 punches all at once wouldnt it?

Now with all that said, please admit toriyama ****ed up with the time leap thing, 0.1 seconds is waaaaaaaay to big a gap for the speed they are at. he should have made it 0.0000000001 seconds but he didnt and thats either because he doesnt care or well maybe he's just not that bright..

Originally posted by kevdbz
okay, this one goes out to CARVER.

I created this account so i could respond to your flawed logic.
Fact is toriyama ****ed up with the 0.1 second time leap... PERIOD

And here's why: Normal people, for instance race car drivers have a reaction speed in between 0.1and 0.2 seconds. this should mean that a 0.1 second advantage for a fighter like hit should be enough to end the fight thousands of times over in that
time frame without goku being able to defend himself (cause time is frozen for him).

Now later you are rejoicing at the fact that hit is able to hit him 2000 times in 0.2 seconds.. well indeed that is starting to look more like it..but that would mean that previously in the 0.1 time leap he would still be able to hit him 1000 times... Yet goku 'predicted' his moves in the 0.1 second time leap ??
Seriously ?? It would be impossible to predict and block 1000 punches all at once wouldnt it?

Now with all that said, please admit toriyama ****ed up with the time leap thing, 0.1 seconds is waaaaaaaay to big a gap for the speed they are at. he should have made it 0.0000000001 seconds but he didnt and thats either because he doesnt care or well maybe he's just not that bright..

You remind me of someone.

Wow Carver. You are famous. People are making account just to talk to you.

I wonder if the reason why Goku didn't KO Hit with one punch in 10x KK is because he was slowed so much by Hits time stop that he didnt have even close to the amount of power he should of had in normal time. It just seemed kind of strange how Hit was taking shots from SSB x10 KK and sustaining the same amount of damage as he was vs normal SSB Goku.

Just a thought.

Also I hope this is a wake up call for Beerus so he starts training again.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Wow Carver. You are famous. People are making account just to talk to you.

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We laugh now... but imagine what will happen if the carver virus spreads all over the planet 😐

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
laughcry laughcry laughcry

We laugh now... but imagine what will happen if the carver virus spreads all over the planet 😐