Originally posted by Inedian
It's difficult now to exceed Merged Zamasu in manga as an opponent in the future, he was too powerful. By far the most powerful villain in DBU.Angels certainly wouldn't be match for him, not even close. We don't know about Grand Priest level, but it's possible not even he could defeat him.
? Merged Zamasu isn't even close to Beerus in the manga...
It's nothing new with how a new evil threat tends to be more powerful than the last. Black/Zamasu does seem like he'd be harder to one-up though with a new villain, assuming the theme of Super throughout (not counting the movie retelling arcs) is rotating between a villain arc and a tournament arc...
And yeah, overselling Merged Zamasu's power if you're comparing him to like the angels or GoD's.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
? Merged Zamasu isn't even close to Beerus in the manga...
There were thousands Merged Zamasus because of his own abilites (and the each with same power level and the same ability to further increase power). That's the point. They take him down with real ease. Beerus and Whis gets murdered.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Beerus wouldn't let Merged Zamasu get to that point. He would finish the job Goku started. Hakai. 👆
We are talking the very peak of Zamasu. When I said it will be hard to top Merged Zamasu... wasn't it obvious I was talking of the very peak of Merged Zamasu. Already because of overwhelming power of Merged Zamasu (thousands of them) you said it's the best feat of Zeno.
Beerus and Whis gets murdered... no debate.
Beside Zeno, only Grand Priest could probably take Merged Zamasu.
Well, I'd need to see the english translations and if they give a reason as to why there are thousands of zamasu's.
That said, saying an angel would get stomped is pushing it extremely, given that Whis can rewind time, oneshot Beerus instantly with no effort, etc. We have no idea how powerful the angels actually are.
Originally posted by Inedian
We are talking the very peak of Zamasu. When I said it will be hard to top Merged Zamasu... wasn't it obvious I was talking of the very peak of Merged Zamasu. Already because of overwhelming power of Merged Zamasu (thousands of them) you said it's the best feat of Zeno.Beerus and Whis gets murdered... no debate.
Beside Zeno, only Grand Priest could probably take Merged Zamasu.
You don't think Whis could take him?
Originally posted by carver9
You don't think Whis could take him?
In straight up battle (so no rewinding time, which maybe wouldn't work on Zamasu because of time ring anyway), no chance.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Grand Priest also obviously stomps even the Merged Zamasu army.
This pretty much say you agree with me.
In other news, in the manga, it's confirmed that Zen-Oh destroyed all 12 universes...the entire timeline. When Zen-Oh destroys the timeline, the time ring is destroyed. When Goku returns to grab Zen-Oh, there is literally nothing, (in the anime there was some weird glowing space dust, in the manga it's just a literal blank canvas). Scary.
That's the vibe I'm getting here, yeah.
In Dragon Ball, when a character (Whis) is orders of magnitude above a character (Beerus) that is orders of magnitude above another character (Merged Zamasu), numbers really don't matter.
And there may well be a bigger gap between Daishinkan and Whis than the one between Whis and Beerus. 😂
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Zamasu have perfected immortality. What can the Daishinkan do? Make a wish?
Destroy them.
Immortality just means you can't be killed. As explained by Beerus, Destruction seems to erase you completely, body and soul.
It's probably sort of like Zeno's power, only on a much smaller scale.