Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Started by Blindside12633 pages

Also whis is a "he" not a "she."

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Whis

I know that, the way he acts throws me every once in awhile.

Supernatural beings often have lines blurred between male and female, but he is definitely in a more masculine form then his sister.

I wonder if they are going to explain the heat that is generating off of Goku.

Carver remember when you said Akira Toriama himself was commenting in a youtube video you posted, and there was literally no proof or reasonable explanation why you said that, were you trolling, or had Carter taken over your meat sack?

Originally posted by carver9
I wonder if they are going to explain the heat that is generating off of Goku.

They kind of did.

Whis claimed it was a "heat of battle" or some such, that burns away everything until there is only instinct. It seems like a "warrior madness" state, the way he discribed it.

The heat is the aura his new transformation gives off and has been a plot point since the first time Goku used Ultra Instinct. It’s likely a mix of his god ki and the energy from the Spirit Bomb.

Frankly the heat is part of the reason Goku’s MUI makes sense. Goku’s body seems to use the heat as the means of entering Ultra Instinct. Beerus, Whis, and presumably the other angels don’t use Ultra Instinct this way so I assume the reason for this transformation in universe is that it is just the method Hoku’s body feels most comfortable using.

I am pretty sure the heat ends up going away in the MUI form, as it was previously stated by Jiren that heat was limit of his power.

It was never said it was limiting him.

Whis just said in the last episode that Goku surrendering himself to the heat was a positive sign. He said there was nothing to worry about, because Goku allowed the heat to burn away everything, leaving nothing behind but instincts.

It can be both. His ability to use Ultra Instinct can be limited based on how much heat his body is able to handle.

Originally posted by cdtm
It was never said it was limiting him.

Whis just said in the last episode that Goku surrendering himself to the heat was a positive sign. He said there was nothing to worry about, because Goku allowed the heat to burn away everything, leaving nothing behind but instincts.

Jiren said "this heat is your limit." Regardless if it was or wasnt, he doesnt have it anymore.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Gotta love how information from the anime and manga seem to apply to each other only when it's convenient around here.
Eh, if the manga does not directly contradict the anime, then the latter is still canon. That's how it has always been... This isn't some "convenient" case that I'm cherry-picking, lol. Don't be salty.

Beerus is hundreds of millions of years old(because he explicitly said so), and we have NO legitimate reason to assume otherwise.

Of coarse we do, cause the fcking new guy said so😂

Contrary to popular belief, Newguy has actually been here for over 5 years. Which really begs the question of his species lifespan when five years is new.
Very interesting

It was a play on words.😂

It is what it is far as Beerus' lifespan I suppose. I just thought maybe having a real rival (Goku) for the first time in thousands/millions of years would give him that push to train and surpass limits again that he didn't have before, but, if we're denying any potential for Beerus getting stronger, how will he still be relevant in the future?

Beerus literally could have trained to try and get stronger with whis, he had the perfect teacher, and never exploited it. His rival could have also been the other gods that could have potentially been stronger then him.

I'm really curious what the wish on the Super Dragon Balls will be. And if it will be Goku getting the wish or not.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
It is what it is far as Beerus' lifespan I suppose. I just thought maybe having a real rival (Goku) for the first time in thousands/millions of years would give him that push to train and surpass limits again that he didn't have before, but, if we're denying any potential for Beerus getting stronger, how will he still be relevant in the future?
Most of us figured Goku would surpass Beerus at *some* point, and frankly, I'm surprised it has taken THIS long.

Oh, I agree that it would be cool to see Beerus start training vigorously to attain MUI himself and surpass Goku. I just don't see it happening, is all.

He did apparently catch up to Raticus. Whis thinks he himself has caught up to Vlados. Champa dropped below Beerus.

Plus if you still count BoG, Beerus went from 7th most powerful God to 1/2. Though I might remember that wrong.