Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Originally posted by cdtm
Berserk Kale sent Blue running into a panic, and tanked a Kamehameha.

Controlled Kale struggled with Red.

And exhausted SSB Goku was too much for base Kefla.

While a fresh Blue was no match for Berserk Kale.

That just proves Kale > Kefla.

Originally posted by cdtm
While a fresh Blue was no match for Berserk Kale.

That just proves Kale > Kefla.

Goku was just playing with Berserk Kale and wasn't even close serious. Did it seem for you that Goku vs. BKale was the same as Goku against Jiren in episode 109? Nope.

In anime, SSB Goku > BKale, no doubt.

Goku looked in a panic to me.

And Jiren acted. Kale was powerful enough to make him do something.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Can't be the only one imagining Galan wearing a kimono when he posts.

Originally posted by cdtm
While a fresh Blue was no match for Berserk Kale.

That just proves Kale > Kefla.

It was stated that Goku was using slightly more power than a Super Saiyan 2 when he fought Kale in his SSB form.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Can't be the only one imagining Galan wearing a kimono when he posts.

I always assumed that people post in KMC while naked.

Chapter 37:

So LSSJ Kale, at her weakest level, casually ragdolled the living shit out of Golden Freeza... Then SSB Goku entered the fray and seemed to contend with her w/o much of an issue(before she powered up more, of course.) This seems to imply that in the manga, SSB Goku > Golden Freeza.

Additionally, I was somewhat surprised that 4th form Freeza felt the need to use his Golden transformation against SSJ Caulifla in the first place. Even his 4th form should have been FAR beyond her, given that he was already approaching God-tier power in that state... But I digress. /shrug

Well, the manga power levels do differ a lot, and ssj Caulifla was going toe to toe with his 4th form. So Golden form allowed him the power to toy with her.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even his 4th form should have been FAR beyond her, given that he was already approaching God-tier power in that state...

Based on...?

The RoF film, and Goku's stated base-level power in that moment(which was not directly contradicted in the anime's rendition either.)

Originally posted by Kento
Well NOW I am....

Not in front of Gatebox ChichiI!

To be honest Frieza did not seem concerned with Kale. He was not even taking her seriously. (Prior to powering up that is.)

Originally posted by Galan007
The RoF film, and Goku's stated base-level power in that moment(which was not directly contradicted in the anime's rendition either.)

Movie canon =/= Anime canon =/= Manga canon

Frieza's revival arc wasn't covered in the DBS manga. This is the very first time we've seen him fight.

Beautiful ownage. Galan just wet his kimono 👆

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Movie canon =/= Anime canon =/= Manga canon

Frieza's revival arc wasn't covered in the DBS manga. This is the very first time we've seen him fight.

That just makes it more disappointing

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Movie canon =/= Anime canon =/= Manga canon

Frieza's revival arc wasn't covered in the DBS manga. This is the very first time we've seen him fight.

The events of RoF were still mentioned in the primary DBS manga(a few times), so we know it was still intended to have happened in manga continuity as per the film... There's also the 3 part RoF manga that was released concurrently with the film. Even though it was still written by Toyotaro, overseen by Toriyama, and published under the SAME brand as all other DBS manga, I know you still believe it doesn't 'count'... So I won't get into that again, because it is ultimately a huge waste of time.

Either way, RoF still happened in the manga.

Originally posted by bbrem123
To be honest Frieza did not seem concerned with Kale. He was not even taking her seriously. (Prior to powering up that is.)

That's right. Freeza said he just needed to take her seriously.

His kick did knock the blue out of Goku.

Originally posted by cdtm
His kick did knock the blue out of Goku.

Sure, but the way Dragon Ball mechanics work, is you're either depowered via distraction, or able to overpower an opponent. If you're more powerful and powered up, then even if your back is turned, you won't be hurt much. Say, by Vegeta attacking Freeza's back with a big attack.

Goku was amped and ready to take Kale, so I'm assuming his defenses were at max strength.