Yea, people say that, because Babidi is seen a bit. But that's usually on a screen. It's like someone is watching the life of Gokou. There is like two arcs they can cover plus all the filler they would add, so its not like Super is starving for content. Though monthly issues would make it catch up to the manga fast.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeToriyama: "I've got it, guys! Lets make Goku a kid in this!!"
So.. Dragon Ball Daima. 😐
Honestly just looks like Teen Titans Go... Except Dragon Ball.
Originally posted by Kento👆
Yea, people say that, because Babidi is seen a bit. But that's usually on a screen. It's like someone is watching the life of Gokou.
Kind of like how Whis replayed the Goku vs. Freeza fight during BoG.
Honestly, if GT stuck to the idea of it being a homage to the more lighthearted OG Dragon Ball, more people would have been fine with it, although it wouldnt have been for people that grew up with Z first (the Western demographic in general basically).
The problem with GT was that it had no idea if it wanted to be more like OG Dragon Ball or Z, so you just ended up with something incoherent.
Daima is clearly meant for fans of OG DB that like their kids and adventure, and expect it to remain coherent as far as that. GT trying to have both worlds didnt really work, but Daima coexisting with Super should please more fans of both OG DB and Z.
The Japan side of the fandom appears to be pretty keen on Daima, unlike everyone else whose all "wtf is this?". It helps that they grew up with OG Dragon Ball unlike most of the West that first grew up with Z.
As far as GT though, if I'm being honest, would've liked it more had it not gone the adventure route to begin with, which only allows for a few characters to get much screentime as you saw, while abandoning everyone else that came before. It only started getting decent when it returned to earth, but I guess you would've still had to explain Baby's existence somehow, who otherwise would've just appeared out of nowhere. At least not making Goku a kid again over an accidental gag wish would've helped some.
Pretty sure I've said this before, but DBS has made GT look pretty damn good in the grand scheme of things.
The only DBS stories I have actually enjoyed in their entirety are BoG, the Zamasu arc, and the Broly movie. Everything else has ranged from mediocre to complete crap(with a few 'cool' moments sprinkled in here and there.) GT was far from perfect, but DBS has been even farther from perfect, imo. If nothing else, I certainly appreciate GT more now than I ever did before DBS.
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The only reason I am not looking forward to Daima is because... I finally am getting Goten and Trunks doing things, as adults. Then Daima they are babies again. SO I am hoping that the next arc of Super Manga is not this...
Let Toriyama have his whole trying to catch OG DB feel with some short anime, and let Toyo give me Goten and Trunks
Don't get me wrong, I also like seeing Goten/Trunks actually doing something after all this time... But they're just being treated as borderline gag characters at this point, so losing them isn't really a "loss" imo. Wish DBS would have continued wanking them like the Boo saga did, but I digress...
I mentioned this in another thread, but assuming Daima will be canon to DBS, the only shred of hope I have is that it takes place after the conclusion of DBS/EoZ -- if for no other reason than to fully reboot the power levels(as the unending power-creep in DBS is completely unchecked and out of control.)
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
The Japan side of the fandom appears to be pretty keen on Daima, unlike everyone else whose all "wtf is this?". It helps that they grew up with OG Dragon Ball unlike most of the West that first grew up with Z.
I grew up with the original DB and I'm still like wtf, so... again, you're not very convincing
DB fanbase (or the West) does not consist of just Americans, you know.
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Who knows, maybe it'll turn out to be actually entertaining --- let's hope so --- but I can't say the teaser trailer looked much fun to me.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
As far as GT though, if I'm being honest, would've liked it more had it not gone the adventure route to begin with, which only allows for a few characters to get much screentime as you saw, while abandoning everyone else that came before. It only started getting decent when it returned to earth, but I guess you would've still had to explain Baby's existence somehow, who otherwise would've just appeared out of nowhere. At least not making Goku a kid again over an accidental gag wish would've helped some.
Sure, I agree here.
Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty sure I've said this before, but DBS has made GT look pretty damn good in the grand scheme of things.The only DBS stories I have actually enjoyed in their entirety are BoG, the Zamasu arc, and the Broly movie. Everything else has ranged from mediocre to complete crap(with a few 'cool' moments sprinkled in here and there.) GT was far from perfect, but DBS has been even farther from perfect, imo. If nothing else, I certainly appreciate GT more now than I ever did before DBS.
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Only read bits and pieces of Moro and Granolah arcs, so dont have strong feelings on them one way or the other, but liked where it was going with Frieza until it went on hiatus.. And while I didnt care for Super Hero either, did like Orange Piccolo at least, who may as well have been the main protagonist.
Baby saga was the highlight of GT, Super 17 was the worst arc, and the Shadow Dragon saga was somewhere in between. Great on paper but lacking on some parts in execution.
I try to fairly weigh the pros and cons of both both GT and Super now instead of just boiling it down to my mid sequel to Z is better than your mid. Otherwise youre just taking to a wall when it comes to fans of whichever series. Nuanced discussion is good.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I grew up with the original DB and I'm still like wtf, so... again, you're not very convincingDB fanbase (or the West) does not consist of just Americans, you know.
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Who knows, maybe it'll turn out to be actually entertaining --- let's hope so --- but I can't say the teaser trailer looked much fun to me.Sure, I agree here.
And Gohan caught the senzu bean that was tossed to him unlike in the film where he dropped it? Huh. I know that was another pointless homage to the Buu saga where he dropped the potara earring, but still.. And Krillen using solar flare on Max was something I made a side comment on somewhere, that am surprised he didnt do originally.
If there is one thing I can give these recaps of most of the films, is fixing a number of the stupid moments Toriyama originally gave us. Toei, Toyotaro, etc just does certain things better than him now, far as the writing of the small parts.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeKrillin used the Solar Flare on Cell Max in the movie too.
And Krillen using solar flare on Max was something I made a side comment on somewhere, that am surprised he didnt do originally.
But in the manga he cut Cell Max's energy beam in half to save #18(instead of hitting him with it directly), and then went on to dodge some of Cell's close-range energy attack spam. Just glad the manga didn't take those moments to shine away from him. 👆
Japan doesn't like Tien which is why we have that. Also to be fair, others like Frieza later had made their own variants of Krillen's destructo disc.
p.s. This is something that only occurred to me after talking to someone earlier, but it's funny to think now that if we had gotten OG DB and Z around the same time as Japan did, and then GT was airing for us roughly the same time it was for them, GT wouldn't of ended as quickly as it did. It would've eventually found its second wind with the West also supporting it when it was still being made.
Likewise, if we had gotten Super in the late 90's not long after Z, it would've had a much shorter run than it did, with the West picking up on it only after DB as a whole had run its course for Japan.
While there may have been other weird things or shenanigans with more GT arcs had it gotten its second wind, better ideas may have been come up with the show as a result, and we wouldn't be in this timeline of Toriyama being left completely to his own devices with the Daima stuff and whatnot. I don't know, but it's an interesting what-if to think about.
I mean, people using other moves is fine. But Krillin upgraded his own move, plus Solar Flare. Makes no sense.
Idk, even getting it late, most people still find GT terrible. Would the hype Japan didn't have for it, be enough from a western audience?
Also, I think Super is doing well in Japan, something GT failed to do. I think the anime would have probably went on longer than it did.