Charleston Shooting-Nine Dead in Church

Originally posted by Q99
Also, this is specifically not just a Southern flag, but a flag use entirely during the prosecution of a war to protect slavery, by people who specifically viewed keeping slaves as a right and the natural order of things, in their own words.

The big problem is that the Confederacy displayed it. And it had a big resurgence during the 60s in opposition to the civil rights movement specifically (that's when it got put up on the South Carolina capital).

The fact that some southerners decide to ignore that history is their problem, but that doesn't change that it was originally created to stand for racism and slavery.

The South has a lot to be proud of. They have inventors that made air conditioning, which probably all of you are using now and has saved tons of lives (it was first made for hospitals). Positive organizations like the Girl Scouts were founded in the South. And we could go on all day about the music and food! (even aside from obvious cuisine, Coke was a southern invention) The inventor of dynamic-RAM, important for the computer revolution, was a southerner.

The civil war and related artifacts are not one of those things, and I view one of the big problems with the south is too many try and make the worst part of their history into what represents them, and which disrespects a huge part of the Southern population, while not focusing on all the things that really are great about the South and which anyone can agree they really should be proud of.

Southerners fought in good wars like World War 2, why focus on their lowest hour?

As one from the South, I approve of this.

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Edit: This isn't to say that I'll deny anyone their simple right to represent themselves with the Confederacy (although, I don't advocate or condone it); just leave the rest of us out of it. Some of us aren't ok with being haphazardly personified by the rough approximation if "I hate n*ggers."

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
remember, its just a flag and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM

He just feels strongly about property rights

It's also a great thing that despite his white skin and having recently murdered nine people with a gun, the police were able to arrest him without shooting him

Originally posted by Robtard
S. Carolina has the death penalty: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/states-and-without-death-penalty

The death penalty is little more than revenge though as it's questionable if it serves as a deterrent. As you can see this cat still murdered nine people.

To be honest for me it isn't about deterrent. It is about the fact this mans actions resulted in the deaths of nine people and he doesn't deserve to enjoy life in any capacity, even if that is just prison forever. You don't get to take this many lives and then continue breathing.

Originally posted by Robtard
He just feels strongly about property rights

It's also a great thing that despite his white skin and having recently murdered nine people with a gun, the police were able to arrest him without shooting him

Did he resist arrest at all? If not, that is probably why he did not get shot.

Originally posted by Surtur

Did he resist arrest at all? If not, that is probably why he did not get shot.

Originally posted by vansonbee
I notice this a lot, that mass shooters like him always give up in the end. Its a smart move by the killer, he had everything plan out it seems.

Exactly. That's why he's still alive because he wasn't stupid enough to fight with police, try to take their gun away, or try running away. Of course, committing the crime that he did wasn't so "smart" though and he's still probably going to die anyway by execution.

Really sad events these past few days, but I believe we can gain positive outlook out of this, like more discussions about racism and how to end it.

Here is a list of list of black on white murders from this year that haven't made the news.
http://conservative-headlines.com/black-on-white-murders-in-2015

So far there doesn't seem to have been a mention of the shooters racist manifesto.

"The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored?""

http://gawker.com/here-is-what-appears-to-be-dylann-roofs-racist-manifest-1712767241

Originally posted by vansonbee
Really sad events these past few days, but I believe we can gain positive outlook out of this, like more discussions about racism and how to end it.

Here is a list of list of black on white murders from this year that haven't made the news.
http://conservative-headlines.com/black-on-white-murders-in-2015

Kindred spirits...

Originally posted by vansonbee
I notice this a lot, that mass shooters like him always give up in the end. Its a smart move by the killer, he had everything plan out it seems.

Exactly, and it's not even about smart moves. It is about the fact he wanted to be caught. He even left one person alive on purpose to tell the tale. This is a kid who wants fame, notoriety, and all that shit. Right now he is getting it: private planes just for him to fly him back to his home state for starters.

People who purposely leave witnesses and manifestos and shit want the attention. I will was listening to one radio show..they wouldn't even say his name when talking about him.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So far there doesn't seem to have been a mention of the shooters racist manifesto.

"The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored?""

http://gawker.com/here-is-what-appears-to-be-dylann-roofs-racist-manifest-1712767241

Kindred spirits...

What you quoted was not racist at all. Is there more from him that has him writing/ranting clearly racist things?

Or perhaps your perception of racism is skewed due to your own.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Or perhaps your perception of racism is skewed due to your own.

The closest he comes are his comments on the Trayvon Martin shooting and that's an opinion upheld by a jury of Zimmernan's peers.

I'm looking for things like, "Black people are a criminal race." Or "I don't like n*ggers." Not stuff like, "Oh, hey, look at that, with a bit of research I found out that black people kill white people at 5 times the rate of the reverse and that disturbed me." If someone said that to me, I wouldn't assume they were racist. I'd assume they lived under a rock.

Black people are also much more likely to have STDs and black women are more likely to be single mothers than any other race, according to the CDC.

So now I'm just as racist as this murderer, according to your logic. Better call the police before I shoot up a church. teehee

But if you'd like to actually answer my question, that'd be great. Did he say actual racist stuff in his manifesto? Is that the whole thing?

Originally posted by vansonbee
Really sad events these past few days, but I believe we can gain positive outlook out of this, like more discussions about racism and how to end it.

Here is a list of list of black on white murders from this year that haven't made the news.
http://conservative-headlines.com/black-on-white-murders-in-2015

It doesn't seem like you know that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The closest he comes are his comments on the Trayvon Martin shooting and that's an opinion upheld by a jury of Zimmernan's peers.

I'm looking for things like, "Black people are a criminal race." Or "I don't like n*ggers." Not stuff like, "Oh, hey, look at that, with a bit of research I found out that black people kill white people at 5 times the rate of the reverse and that disturbed me." If someone said that to me, I wouldn't assume they were racist. I'd assume they lived under a rock.

Black people are also much more likely to have STDs and black women are more likely to be single mothers than any other race, according to the CDC.

So now I'm just as racist as this murderer, according to your logic. Better call the police before I shoot up a church. teehee

But if you'd like to actually answer my question, that'd be great. Did he say actual racist stuff in his manifesto? Is that the whole thing?

Originally posted by dadudemon
The closest he comes are his comments on the Trayvon Martin shooting and that's an opinion upheld by a jury of Zimmernan's peers.

I'm looking for things like, "Black people are a criminal race." Or "I don't like n*ggers." Not stuff like, "Oh, hey, look at that, with a bit of research I found out that black people kill white people at 5 times the rate of the reverse and that disturbed me." If someone said that to me, I wouldn't assume they were racist. I'd assume they lived under a rock.

Black people are also much more likely to have STDs and black women are more likely to be single mothers than any other race, according to the CDC.

So now I'm just as racist as this murderer, according to your logic. Better call the police before I shoot up a church. teehee

But if you'd like to actually answer my question, that'd be great. Did he say actual racist stuff in his manifesto? Is that the whole thing?

Could follow the link I provided.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Could follow the link I provided.

Blocked at work.

Or you could just quote something actually racist.

Edit - I know you won't post something dishonest. I trust your link. I just can't see it nor am I going to search for this kind of thing at work.

No worries, you can read it when you're home.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No worries, you can read it when you're home.

I won't get home for 2 days. My assumption is you misspoke/typed "racist manifesto."

I guess I'll just have to live with you assuming that until you can read the gawker article.

Originally posted by Mindset
You realize you can kill someone of another race without being racist, right?

It doesn't seem like you know that.

Vansonbee blames all black-people for his micropenis, so can't expect him to approach the subject of 'racism' with any semblance of logic and objectivity

Originally posted by Bardock42
I guess I'll just have to live with you assuming that until you can read the gawker article.

Pretty sure you're just trolling me.