Charleston Shooting-Nine Dead in Church

Started by Time-Immemorial30 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Obama used the N-word a few times in his book, no one seemed to notice.

He's using it to make a point, a point clearly lost to you.

Oh look at you coming to his defense. Did you get all butt hurt I called him out for saying it that I didn't approve? I don't care what point he was trying to make. The President is supposed to be above that.

Instead of saying the word he could say the "N" word, or just leave that line of shit stirring rhetoric out of it.

Seriously, every time I don't approve of something its you and all ur butt friends coming to spin the topic back on me and somehow give him a pass.

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
I don't think you yourself are racist (though vasonbee surely is) but I feel you often accidentally veer into that territory of not seeing how it is often a dismissal of any actual discussion or issue involving racism.

Then I have no choice (if I wish to remain reasonable, that is) but to accept that criticism and alter my stance on this topic.

Thank you for your feedback and comments, dude. hug

Originally posted by Q99

Oh, not 'reverse racism' argument. [/B]

It's not reverse racism. It is "racism racism." But it is more subtle.

Originally posted by Q99
[You're complaining about people pointing out real, existent problems again.

No, I'm pointing out a real and existing problem/trend with people who think they are being progressive. It is possible to be oblivious how racist it seems to think black people are incapable and "need my white guilt and white money."

I'm pointing out a problem with whining, not the other way around, this time.

But thank you for your input (not sarcasm).

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Oh look at you coming to his defense. Did you get all butt hurt I called him out for saying it that I didn't approve? I don't care what point he was trying to make. The President is supposed to be above that.

See, here's your problem. Anything less than me agreeing with your kneejerk attacks on Obama and you call me an apologist. Grow up and learn what nuance is.


Instead of saying the word he could say the "N" word, or just leave that line of shit stirring rhetoric out of it.

He could have, but he didn't. My guess is that he wanted to get people's attention and make a strong point that using a euphemism wouldn't have accomplished. You also have to consider that, surprisingly, Obama doesn't tailor his comments to those who oppose him, but rather his supporters. A lot of his supporters are mollified when he takes a hard stance on issues of race.

Seriously, every time I don't approve of something its you and all ur butt friends coming to spin the topic back on me and somehow give him a pass.

Have you ever considered that maybe it's your problem, and that everyone (except Star and DDD), is simply tired of your mouth-frothing Obama fixation?

Originally posted by dadudemon
It's not reverse racism. It is "racism racism." But it is more subtle.

So waitaminute...a reverse gangbang, is still a gangbang?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
...outline the junk science/psychology/economics/statistical analysis/history revision which forms the foundation of the white supremacist's ideal?

nah, i'm good. 👆

Wait, what? I'm pretty sure these people are white supremacists. Why would they outline the problems with their own ideology?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Wait, what? I'm pretty sure these people [b]are white supremacists. Why would they outline the problems with their own ideology? [/B]

self serving bias.

also, what do you define as "the problems"?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
See, here's your problem. Anything less than me agreeing with your kneejerk attacks on Obama and you call me an apologist. Grow up and learn what nuance is.

He could have, but he didn't. My guess is that he wanted to get people's attention and make a strong point that using a euphemism wouldn't have accomplished. You also have to consider that, surprisingly, Obama doesn't tailor his comments to those who oppose him, but rather his supporters. A lot of his supporters are mollified when he takes a hard stance on issues of race.

Have you ever considered that maybe it's your problem, and that everyone (except Star and DDD), is simply tired of your mouth-frothing Obama fixation?

Have you considered we all tired of your oral fixation of every thing that comes out of Obamas mouth isn't crap?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
self serving bias.

also, what do you define as "the problems"?

Like believing that white people are the superior race and claiming that blacks are half-savage apes?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Like believing that white people are the superior race and claiming that blacks are half-savage apes?

believing that might cause one to overlook relative poverty statistics and average prosecutions for petty crimes and lack of opportunities and quality of education, to selectively hype per-capita data contrasting shit-ghetto america with upper/middle-class america. it's easy to paint a lie with raw data.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Have you considered we all tired of your oral fixation of every thing that comes out of Obamas mouth isn't crap?

Or we can be tired of both of you guys 131

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
believing that might cause one to overlook relative poverty statistics and average prosecutions for petty crimes and lack of opportunities and quality of education, to selectively hype per-capita data contrasting shit-ghetto america with upper/middle-class america. it's easy to paint a lie with raw data.

Those were statistics for murder, not petty crime. And lower financial status and education are feeble excuses for murder.

Originally posted by Bentley
Or we can be tired of both of you guys 131
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Those were statistics for murder, not petty crime. And lower financial status and education are feeble excuses for murder.

these are consequences, not excuses. and way to dodge my question and draw your own illogical conclusions with that ridiculous non sequitur.

good luck with your self serving bias. 👆

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
these are consequences, not excuses. and way to dodge my question and draw your own illogical conclusions with that ridiculous non sequitur.

good luck with your self serving bias. 👆

They are excuses, excuses you are using. Consequences, bah! As if we're talking about watering your plants and not human beings with agency who should bloody well be able to tell right from wrong.

Good luck with your buzzwords. 👆 Sadly, not all of them will change a single fact.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
They are excuses, excuses you are using. Consequences, bah! As if we're talking about watering your plants and not human beings with agency who should bloody well be able to tell right from wrong.

Good luck with your buzzwords. 👆 Sadly, not all of them will change a single fact.

Which ones will change a single fact?

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Originally posted by vansonbee
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Originally posted by NemeBro
Which ones will change a single fact?

The ones he used previously.

just looking around the threads and taking a peek here.

the shooter saying there was no 'real' KKK or white power movement and that 'something had to be done' is pretty bullshit of an answer to kill members of the public.

black or not a human is a human